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LandGreen2 03-02-2023 07:00 AM


Originally Posted by CBreezy (Post 3599975)
I'll give you sunsetting of NFLY as a concession even though 90% of Delta pilots are opposed to anything covid related except free time off.

But name one other concession.


Please explain everything you know about NFLY. Based on your "free time off" comment ya might save yourself a lecture

RunFast 03-02-2023 07:01 AM


Originally Posted by notEnuf (Post 3600608)
Location sucked. Van to the city and back. The times weren't very convenient either.

Hotel is still not great depending on which room you get assigned out of the roulette.

Bar is great. Gym is so so.

Van service to downtown is useless, faster to walk or take the train to central.

The location has been steadily improving over the last 6 years. Getting gentrified with new bars, restaurants and art galleries. We will still likely stay there from time to time but I’ll miss it.

Museum quarter is a great location but still not a great hotel with a below average bar and gym.

RunFast 03-02-2023 07:03 AM


Originally Posted by JamesBond (Post 3600624)
BFD. There are plenty of restaurants in the area around that hotel and AMS ain't all that great of a city anyway. Now we are gonna be stuck in traffic going downtown for an extra half hour.

Museum Quarter is closer to Schiphol than the Noord. Zuid is even closer. Just saying.

tennisguru 03-02-2023 07:12 AM


Originally Posted by BCan (Post 3600689)
For those who have seen these types of special payouts; I'm assuming the payout will be separate from our normal paycheck? If so, do we expect to have an election tool for Fidelity similar to our profit sharing election tool? Answer might be in the sky hub today...but I'm on the road.

Thanks
BC

The one-time payment is not pensionable by the company and you cannot contribute any of it to your 401k, but it also does not count against the income limit (330k?) for 401k contributions. Because of this I would think there is no need for an election tool.

myrkridia 03-02-2023 07:15 AM


Originally Posted by tennisguru (Post 3600713)
The one-time payment is not pensionable by the company and you cannot contribute any of it to your 401k, but it also does not count against the income limit (330k?) for 401k contributions. Because of this I would think there is no need for an election tool.

The part from this year is

m3113n1a1 03-02-2023 07:20 AM


Originally Posted by myrkridia (Post 3600714)
The part from this year is

I think they'll be paid in two separate checks too if you read the MOU. Sounds like they only have 30 days to pay us 2020, 2021, and 2022 not retro. But longer to pay us our 2023 retro.

nwaf16dude 03-02-2023 07:22 AM


Originally Posted by tennisguru (Post 3600713)
The one-time payment is not pensionable by the company and you cannot contribute any of it to your 401k, but it also does not count against the income limit (330k?) for 401k contributions. Because of this I would think there is no need for an election tool.

What/where is your source for this info? Are you saying I can’t even make a 401a after tax contribution from it?

OOfff 03-02-2023 07:23 AM


Originally Posted by nwaf16dude (Post 3600719)
What/where is your source for this info? Are you saying I can’t even make a 401a after tax contribution from it?

you can do that from your own bank account, so of course you can

Giordano Bruno 03-02-2023 07:29 AM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 3600569)
The highest number I ever heard was 20/8/8 but am now told it was 16/8/8. The total of over 3 billion was not non sense and dead on. Now that the contract is done ask your reps. You can also simply look at the parts of the opener that were published and reach a logical conclusion. What happened to that 25% DC/MCBP and 260 hours of vacation with a equal distribution of weeks? From a 3 billion plus opener in year one to 150 million one time payment! We got them!

What in the world are you talking about? all made up. whoever in mgmt is feeding you this stuff is making you look like a buffoon.

everything you have posted in this (and every) negotiating cycle is a play to either a.) fall over yourself trying to get a quick, company-centric contract or b.) trash all attempts to see through a comprehensive, pilot-centric contract, even if it takes more time. Extreme leverage this cycle, and you're still mad we didn't settle early for less. Stupefying.

when do you retire, or are you already retired?

tennisguru 03-02-2023 07:40 AM


Originally Posted by myrkridia (Post 3600714)
The part from this year is

Yes, I was only talking about the one-time payment, which is the 2020-2022 "retro". It has been stated elsewhere that the back pay to Jan 1 of this year will be pensionable and will also have whatever your normal 401k deduction set to drawn from it. I also don't see the reason why the company would make an election tool for this.

So, we will be getting 4 checks this month:

15th/30th normal paychecks
One time payment of 4/4/14 2020-2022 earnings. Not pensionable, no personal 401k contributions. I'd also assume no HSA deductions. Supplemental tax rate of 22% federal + all applicable SS/medicare/state/local taxes + ALPA dues taken out,
Retro payment of new pay rates applied to Jan and Feb earnings. Pensionable and will deduct your normal 401k contribution percentage.


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