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Old 03-08-2023 | 07:20 AM
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Hello, what is the quickest you can upgrade at Delta and what AC and base ? APC hasn't been updated in years! Thanks!!
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Old 03-08-2023 | 08:14 AM
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4.5 months. Nyc 7er (757/767).
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Old 03-08-2023 | 08:21 AM
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Why? what's the reason? Where does the 75 fly to? Is it a bad schedule? Don't you have to be on property for a year and have xxxhr flying at the airline and off probation to upgrade? How about the 73 I would think that would be a faster upgrade. Thanks!
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Old 03-08-2023 | 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by clearskys
Why? what's the reason? Where does the 75 fly to? Is it a bad schedule? Don't you have to be on property for a year and have xxxhr flying at the airline and off probation to upgrade? How about the 73 I would think that would be a faster upgrade. Thanks!
Least desirable base trips. Its the state bird of Florida. No limitation at delta, but you do need 1000hrs of 121 time though it wouldn't stop you from getting awarded the seat. 73 and 320 NYC are also quick
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Old 03-08-2023 | 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by clearskys
Why? what's the reason? Where does the 75 fly to? Is it a bad schedule? Don't you have to be on property for a year and have xxxhr flying at the airline and off probation to upgrade? How about the 73 I would think that would be a faster upgrade. Thanks!
Junior captain schedules are terrible. I’ll stay in the right seat and keep my Europe overnights
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Old 03-08-2023 | 08:45 AM
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Junior captain schedules are terrible. I’ll stay in the right seat and keep my Europe overnights
What makes it terrible are the reserve rules bad? How long are you seat locked for before you can bid the right seat of something else? How long do you think you'll be on reserve? The other side is who upgrades in 4.5? do they have previous experience in type and know the delta procedure and stations, I mean with that quick upgrade you never even di-iced with Delta before upgrading... crazy times!
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Old 03-08-2023 | 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by clearskys
What makes it terrible are the reserve rules bad? How long are you seat locked for before you can bid the right seat of something else? How long do you think you'll be on reserve? The other side is who upgrades in 4.5? do they have previous experience in type and know the delta procedure and stations, I mean with that quick upgrade you never even di-iced with Delta before upgrading... crazy times!
Probably RJ guys or guys from other 121 carriers who have de-iced plenty of times throughout their careers.
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Old 03-08-2023 | 08:53 AM
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Probably RJ guys or guys from other 121 carriers who have de-iced plenty of times throughout their careers.
I agree. The few “probationary” captains I trained recently in the ER were absolutely fantastic, and often ahead of seasoned FOs. All were a pleasure to work with and well aware of their once in a lifetime opportunity.
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Old 03-08-2023 | 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by clearskys
What makes it terrible are the reserve rules bad? How long are you seat locked for before you can bid the right seat of something else? How long do you think you'll be on reserve? The other side is who upgrades in 4.5? do they have previous experience in type and know the delta procedure and stations, I mean with that quick upgrade you never even di-iced with Delta before upgrading... crazy times!
Uncommutable domestic trips doing multiple legs per day. Reserve rules aren’t bad so if you live in base it’s not terrible. Hard to tell how long they’ll be on reserve. In holiday months, reserve goes senior so they may not be able to hold reserve and be forced to a line. Either way, they’re working the holiday anyway. I’d say most people that are upgrading don’t have the type or previous experience on it but they have experience on other transport category planes.
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Old 03-08-2023 | 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by clearskys
What makes it terrible are the reserve rules bad? How long are you seat locked for before you can bid the right seat of something else? How long do you think you'll be on reserve? The other side is who upgrades in 4.5? do they have previous experience in type and know the delta procedure and stations, I mean with that quick upgrade you never even di-iced with Delta before upgrading... crazy times!
It's all relative, Delta has either the best or close to best reserve rules in the industry with the new contract and previous ones weren't all that bad in a lot of ways.

Seat lock will be 2 years from award.

Since you can put all your reserve days in a row here even commuting a long distance junior can be relatively simple. Living closer is better though and within short call leash changes a lot.

NYC is extra junior becuase non locals aren't always thrilled with the prospect of multiple airports. It's not so much that it's bad here as it is many choose to be senior in NYC or junior closer to home. If you live anywhere near one of the three NYC airports you can assuredly take advantage.
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