Originally Posted by MrBojangles (Post 3641889)

yeah and what changed? It starts with Opti and ends in mizer.

Originally Posted by TED74 (Post 3641894)

Help me understand the difference in category size as it affects batch size preferences.

If I’m in a category with 400 pilots and there are 3 trips to cover, a batch size of 15 means I have a one in 5 chance of being the selected pilot for a green slip.

If I’m in a category of 100 pilots there and there are 3 trips to cover, a batch size of 15 means I have a one in 5 chance of being the selected pilot for a green slip.

Am I to understand that larger category pilots want more headfakes with the tradeoff that they get through the coverage process faster? Why isn’t anyone discouraged by the total response window going to 25 minutes from the historic 10? I’d rather shorten that myself than open myself to more headfakes.

Originally Posted by MrBojangles (Post 3641899)

Math is the issue..it's not your chances of the trip, it's the time it takes to get down the list. Once people that actually want to fly the trips get GS1, as the month goes on those people just fishing for 23M7 and batch violation money go to the top of the ARCOS list since they haven't take a GS yet. So as the month goes on it takes longer and longer to find a person that will actually fly the trip. I've been past 200 before on the callout list. It's impossible if you have a trip signing in lets say in 5 hours with a batch size of 5 to get through all that (that would get them to 100 on the list). And that's just GS. That doesn't account for WS and OOBWS.

Originally Posted by MrBojangles (Post 3641899)

Math is the issue..it's not your chances of the trip, it's the time it takes to get down the list. Once people that actually want to fly the trips get GS1, as the month goes on those people just fishing for 23M7 and batch violation money go to the top of the ARCOS list since they haven't take a GS yet. So as the month goes on it takes longer and longer to find a person that will actually fly the trip. I've been past 200 before on the callout list. It's impossible if you have a trip signing in lets say in 5 hours with a batch size of 5 to get through all that (that would get them to 100 on the list). And that's just GS. That doesn't account for WS and OOBWS.

Originally Posted by MrBojangles (Post 3641899)

Math is the issue..it's not your chances of the trip, it's the time it takes to get down the list. Once people that actually want to fly the trips get GS1, as the month goes on those people just fishing for 23M7 and batch violation money go to the top of the ARCOS list since they haven't take a GS yet. So as the month goes on it takes longer and longer to find a person that will actually fly the trip. I've been past 200 before on the callout list. It's impossible if you have a trip signing in lets say in 5 hours with a batch size of 5 to get through all that (that would get them to 100 on the list). And that's just GS. That doesn't account for WS and OOBWS.

Originally Posted by interceptorpilo (Post 3641932)

Thanks for this explanation. I didn’t see it this way until you made it clear. So the real issue is GS#2 or 3 or … and later in the month. I see the problem now from your point of view. I am still not convinced we should solve this Company problem without a significant quid but I see the issue better.

Originally Posted by MrBojangles (Post 3641966)

yeah GS1 is no issue (at least if you're senior enough). I suspect if we could look at the data you'd see RR and IA rise as the month goes on to cover trips at least on these massive NB fleets. Believe me, i'd definitely like to solve this issue and get something in return and that's what I have told my reps numerous times for years now.

Originally Posted by DWC CAP10 USAF (Post 3642067)

We’ve hired 3000 pilots in the past 18 months but almost all NB FO categories are still negative reserve coverage…batch sizes aren’t the problem!

Originally Posted by MrBojangles (Post 3642138)

one of the issues with those numbers is the screwed up equation used to derive reserves required. it got all messed up during the covid times and after when we got all those premium trips. I thought they were addressing that also. and batch sizes are the problem when it comes to COVERING premium trips. It's not why the trips are created however-that's staffing, or fatiguing trips, or whatever you wanna blame it on

Originally Posted by DWC CAP10 USAF (Post 3642174)

Equation be damned…this could have been a non event if network only built a schedule they could actually fly based on the number of pilots we actually have.