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Iceberg 05-21-2023 06:47 PM


Originally Posted by MrBojangles (Post 3639540)
what if I told you that these premium trips can actually make you work a lot less? But yes I agree all that other stuff you said is great but you’ll never find an excess of reserves lying around like we had in covid. It doesn’t make financial sense to the company

Correction. Reserves laid unused prior to covid.

MrBojangles 05-21-2023 07:27 PM


Originally Posted by Iceberg (Post 3639830)
Correction. Reserves laid unused prior to covid.

yes and did we have GS before covid?

Iceberg 05-22-2023 04:20 AM


Originally Posted by MrBojangles (Post 3639841)
yes and did we have GS before covid?

I corrected your statement that people are looking for covid era staffing levels. We’re not. We’re looking for pre RG sodomizer staffing levels. Buffers that protected the schedule and allowed phenomenal operational performance while allowing pilots more schedule flexibility.

And yes, mrbojangles, green slips did exist.

Whoopsmybad 05-22-2023 04:39 AM


Originally Posted by Meme In Command (Post 3639334)
Ive been following this thread and I may have missed it but I would greatly appreciate anyone that could explain this. What exactly is prompting this apparent sudden surge in IA's? I'm used to getting green slip calls constantly and then suddenly out of nowhere not a single greenslip and now everything is an IA call from scheduling? Does the implementation of 18hr LC play a roll?

Make sure if you have a GS in and you get an IA call, ACE it. We need to give ALPA all the data points we can for the grievance.

Whoopsmybad 05-22-2023 04:52 AM


Originally Posted by Iceberg (Post 3639893)
I corrected your statement that people are looking for covid era staffing levels. We’re not. We’re looking for pre RG sodomizer staffing levels. Buffers that protected the schedule and allowed phenomenal operational performance while allowing pilots more schedule flexibility.

And yes, mrbojangles, green slips did exist.

While we can all pine for these days to return, they will not. Fight for the best rules we can, but those days will never return. Hopefully the 4th floor does not run it so hot the whole thing collapses.

Rooster435 05-22-2023 04:59 AM


Originally Posted by Whoopsmybad (Post 3639901)
Make sure if you have a GS in and you get an IA call, ACE it. We need to give ALPA all the data points we can for the grievance.

The Union should be automatically invetigating all IA awards. I see multiple close in IA awards almost everyday in Atl yet I haven’t had an OOBGS call all month despite having a blanket request in. If I filed an ACE report for everyone of those I’d probably have 30 or 40 this month alone. Multiply that by the number of pilots skipped in the process (WS, OOBWS, GS, OOBGS) and the ACE app goes into grid lock.

Seems much more manageable if Alpa would scout the trip coverage and just automatically open a report for every IA.

Ar Pilot 05-22-2023 05:44 AM


Originally Posted by Rooster435 (Post 3639914)
The Union should be automatically invetigating all IA awards. I see multiple close in IA awards almost everyday in Atl yet I haven’t had an OOBGS call all month despite having a blanket request in. If I filed an ACE report for everyone of those I’d probably have 30 or 40 this month alone. Multiply that by the number of pilots skipped in the process (WS, OOBWS, GS, OOBGS) and the ACE app goes into grid lock.

Seems much more manageable if Alpa would scout the trip coverage and just automatically open a report for every IA.

ACE App filters reports by rotation. So if 20 pilots write in about the same rotation, it lumps them all together. No gridlock.

MrBojangles 05-22-2023 06:01 AM


Originally Posted by Iceberg (Post 3639893)
I corrected your statement that people are looking for covid era staffing levels. We’re not. We’re looking for pre RG sodomizer staffing levels. Buffers that protected the schedule and allowed phenomenal operational performance while allowing pilots more schedule flexibility.

And yes, mrbojangles, green slips did exist.

i agree a lot of this can trace its roots to the stupid optimizer and these trips that have no slop in them for wx or any kind of delay also

JamesBond 05-22-2023 06:46 AM


Originally Posted by Iceberg (Post 3639009)
When were these negotiations and what was the result?

you are gonna find out. Enjoy those 2 am GS call for which you are gonna be number 235 in line

Puddytatt 05-22-2023 06:48 AM

Kind of ironic how all this IA stuff started immediately after we signed the PWA and left section 6. Almost like they knew it was a violation of the status quo.


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