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06-02-2023, 04:08 AM

#31

Jaww

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Originally Posted by JohnBurke

This is not a question about the US Air Force. Focus.

Actually go read. The poster made a comment about there being no medical reason. A lot of us brought up a medical reason and a major organization that has a policy about it.

But in the terms of the OP, you’re right, the AF has nothing to do with it.

06-02-2023, 04:17 AM

#32

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Originally Posted by m3113n1a1

You care about shaving this much? What if their airline allows beards? Allegiant, Atlas, Hawaiian, (and I believe United is working on it), allow beards.

I think UPS (maybe ATI) as well, but what their airline allows is irrelevant. I once had a captain turn away an FAA inspector, who was trying to JS, because he had a beard.

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Originally Posted by ancman

Good luck with that.

I mean, if you're not shaven, he's probably going to win that one with the CPO. Seems like such a ridiculous thing to take a stand on really. This job isn't that hard, some just love to make it much more difficult than it needs to be. Start a campaign to get the rule change if you need a beard to feel good about yourself, but until then, you knew what you were getting into when hired.

06-02-2023, 04:31 AM

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Originally Posted by 20Fathoms

So you already know what the manual says and you don’t want our opinions, in fact “spare me?” You’re a natural Delta captain

. Would you like your blazer single or double breasted?

Seriously dude, an ounce of humility and all that…. But to answer your question, my personal data point is not one bearded pilot in my decade here and no anecdotes of one either. However, if you can get our manual changed to allow beards you’ll never have to buy a drink here and I’ll buy the first round.

to add to that if they even allow one bearded pilot due to a “medical condition” the group appearance is already compromised. Plenty of others that would love to have a well groomed beard. Wouldn’t be fair to not let everyone through.

06-02-2023, 04:44 AM

#34

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Originally Posted by Justabusdriver1

Wouldn’t be fair to not let everyone through.

Yeah, I wouldn’t want your beard’s feelings to get hurt because somebody gets a waiver with legitimate medical issues. Pretty tone deaf.

06-02-2023, 05:16 AM

#35

Lifeisgood

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Originally Posted by ancman

Good luck with that.

what has luck to do with flying by fom?

06-02-2023, 05:21 AM

#36

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Originally Posted by m3113n1a1

You care about shaving this much? What if their airline allows beards? Allegiant, Atlas, Hawaiian, (and I believe United is working on it), allow beards.

fom does not him. Capt is supposed to enforce the fom. Simple as that. Question was about Delta. Focus, please.

06-02-2023, 05:21 AM

#37

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Originally Posted by thunderbird22

Not to hijack the thread here, but has anyone had laser hair removal on their neck? Or know anyone who has? I try my best to use good shaving practices but the combination of having to shave every other day and wearing a collar for this job leaves my neck constantly red and irritated. Nothing I've tried has worked to stop the irritation I might just have sensitive skin. My theory is if I don't have to consistently shave my neck after laser hair removal, the bumps and irritation will go away.

I’ve got a buddy that’s been very happy with it.

mangled his face with a dull razor morning of a derm appointment two times in a row and got referred to permanent hair removal courtesy of his insurance.