FAA Inspector in Jumpseat
10-18-2023 | 07:33 AM
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FAA Inspector in Jumpseat
FAA inspector booked for the Jumpseat on the flight I’d like to commute up on next week (new CA checkout).
do I get positive space for this even though I haven’t been ‘bumped’ as I wasn’t yet on the Jumpseat?
or do I have to show up on the day, get listed, and then denied before calling CS?
or am I just out of luck altogether and need to make alternate arrangements?
do I get positive space for this even though I haven’t been ‘bumped’ as I wasn’t yet on the Jumpseat?
or do I have to show up on the day, get listed, and then denied before calling CS?
or am I just out of luck altogether and need to make alternate arrangements?
10-18-2023 | 07:38 AM
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FAA inspector booked for the Jumpseat on the flight I’d like to commute up on next week (new CA checkout).
do I get positive space for this even though I haven’t been ‘bumped’ as I wasn’t yet on the Jumpseat?
or do I have to show up on the day, get listed, and then denied before calling CS?
or am I just out of luck altogether and need to make alternate arrangements?
do I get positive space for this even though I haven’t been ‘bumped’ as I wasn’t yet on the Jumpseat?
or do I have to show up on the day, get listed, and then denied before calling CS?
or am I just out of luck altogether and need to make alternate arrangements?
10-18-2023 | 08:44 AM
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You're out of luck. The previous agreement to book PS was only valid if you were booked then bumped. Honestly though, it was never contractual and the manager of crew assist has claimed that they no longer do that. They actually said they never did it, which is not true, but the company just says what they want these days. Either way, follow UTC clause in FOM for PS
The company is on an anti-PS optics crusade in a way that they never were before the Covid LOA. Remember when every major IROP was preceded by an email authorizing blanket positive space travel to work? Today the emails simply say “Good luck, plan your commutes accordingly”.
10-18-2023 | 08:52 AM
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Which is funny, because the end result for the company is the same. They end up coughing up a PS seat, just on a later flight with a shorter delay buffer before your working flight.
The company is on an anti-PS optics crusade in a way that they never were before the Covid LOA. Remember when every major IROP was preceded by an email authorizing blanket positive space travel to work? Today the emails simply say “Good luck, plan your commutes accordingly”.
The company is on an anti-PS optics crusade in a way that they never were before the Covid LOA. Remember when every major IROP was preceded by an email authorizing blanket positive space travel to work? Today the emails simply say “Good luck, plan your commutes accordingly”.
10-18-2023 | 09:32 AM
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You're out of luck. The previous agreement to book PS was only valid if you were booked then bumped. Honestly though, it was never contractual and the manager of crew assist has claimed that they no longer do that. They actually said they never did it, which is not true, but the company just says what they want these days. Either way, follow UTC clause in FOM for PS
10-18-2023 | 09:47 AM
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Unbelievable. I read the thing from ALPA and I know in the past, I was given PS to work when bumped by FAA if I had js booked first. It’s no longer there. Just deadheaded in economy in back of plane. I was in third to last row in an aisle. I thought we improved our deadhead language in new PWA? Just one more section the company doesn’t like so is refusing to comply with.
Exception one: Surface transportation to or from an airport for the sole purpose of lodging is not a deadhead.
Exception two: Travel to and from training is not a deadhead.
Commuting to work or from work is not a deadhead. Why would deadhead language apply to people who choose not to live in base 👿
10-18-2023 | 09:58 AM
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Unbelievable. I read the thing from ALPA and I know in the past, I was given PS to work when bumped by FAA if I had js booked first. It’s no longer there. Just deadheaded in economy in back of plane. I was in third to last row in an aisle. I thought we improved our deadhead language in new PWA? Just one more section the company doesn’t like so is refusing to comply with.
10-18-2023 | 03:10 PM
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As was said below, commuting is not a DH. It's PS. It's not a DH when you utilize UTC or the Commuter clause. Bumped by training/FAA PS to work was never on the contract or the FOM. It was something that company did as a courtesy. Believe me, I've tried to find it written down everywhere.
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