Airline Pilot Central Forums

Go Back  Airline Pilot Central Forums > Airline Pilot Forums > Major > Delta
Hire until we furlough >

Hire until we furlough

Register
FAQ
Advertising
Calendar
Search
Today's Posts
Mark Forums Read

Notices

Hire until we furlough

Page 47 of 48
« First
37
43
44
45
46
47
48
   
Old 12-06-2023, 07:54 AM
  #461  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Apr 2020
Posts: 2,468
Default
Originally Posted by CX500T
Depends on base perhaps. Lineholder in October and called on any off day I was legal to fly save maybe 1 or 2 all month.
Yet the didnt backfill the category on the last AE...
PilotBases is offline  
Reply
Old 12-06-2023, 09:36 AM
  #462  
Moderator
 
FangsF15's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Sep 2011
Posts: 4,971
Default
Originally Posted by CBreezy
A friend of mine on the 320 didn't get used once on reserve in October.
Which base? That's pretty suprising. Of course, it really matters how his/her reserve days were constrructed in length and day-of-week starts...
FangsF15 is offline  
Reply
Old 12-06-2023, 09:37 AM
  #463  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Jul 2013
Posts: 10,606
Default
Originally Posted by FangsF15
Which base? That's pretty suprising. Of course, it really matters how his/her reserve days were constrructed in length and day-of-week starts...
Atl. Mix of weekend and weekday
CBreezy is offline  
Reply
Old 01-04-2024, 02:33 PM
  #464  
Line Holder
 
Joined APC: Jul 2021
Posts: 94
Default
With the hiring being slowed down, does anyone have a valid reason why the company has chosen to do so? Is it as simple as the airplane is nearing full staffing? Or something more complex?
HiFly5 is offline  
Reply
Old 01-04-2024, 02:41 PM
  #465  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Sep 2019
Posts: 265
Default
Originally Posted by HiFly5
With the hiring being slowed down, does anyone have a valid reason why the company has chosen to do so? Is it as simple as the airplane is nearing full staffing? Or something more complex?
1,000 a year is still a ton of people
The Localizer is offline  
Reply
Old 01-04-2024, 02:43 PM
  #466  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Feb 2022
Posts: 699
Default
Originally Posted by HiFly5
With the hiring being slowed down, does anyone have a valid reason why the company has chosen to do so? Is it as simple as the airplane is nearing full staffing? Or something more complex?
I am going to speculate it has to do with the 220 and 321 Neo Engine issues - China not recovering and global events in the Middle East... and no WB order for massive hiring. Also, a couple thousand FA's took voluntary unpaid leave since they are overstaffed for a few months

Delta plans to grow at 8% per year as well, which is healthy so this might be all they need
170Till5 is offline  
Reply
Old 01-04-2024, 02:46 PM
  #467  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Sep 2015
Position: UNA
Posts: 4,681
Default
Originally Posted by HiFly5
With the hiring being slowed down, does anyone have a valid reason why the company has chosen to do so? Is it as simple as the airplane is nearing full staffing? Or something more complex?
Probably just returning to pre Covid norms. In early 2020 We had 14.5k ish pilots and were hiring to get closer to 15.5k by end of 2020. Instead with Covid we shrunk to roughly 12.5k by summer 2021. We hired like crazy to staff the air line back to what we had pre Covid plus a little growth. Contract 2019 drove staffing requirements higher and that probably influenced keeping hiring strong through the end of 2023. Now we seem to be getting back to normal with growth and retirements. 1,100 is still a good number and should let us staff for about 45 or so net growth planes plus the 500 or so retirements we have this year (barring age 67)
Gone Flying is offline  
Reply
Old 01-04-2024, 03:10 PM
  #468  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Feb 2008
Posts: 19,689
Default
Originally Posted by HiFly5
With the hiring being slowed down, does anyone have a valid reason why the company has chosen to do so? Is it as simple as the airplane is nearing full staffing? Or something more complex?
They have caught up on 2000 pilots leaving early. It's also math. They need 650 to 700 pilots for growth plus retirements. You also gain jobs any time you reduce or stop hiring as instructors go back to the line.
Last edited by sailingfun; 01-04-2024 at 03:33 PM.
sailingfun is offline  
Reply
Old 01-05-2024, 05:22 PM
  #469  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Feb 2015
Position: LAX ER
Posts: 1,606
Default
Originally Posted by 170Till5
I am going to speculate it has to do with the 220 and 321 Neo Engine issues - China not recovering and global events in the Middle East... and no WB order for massive hiring. Also, a couple thousand FA's took voluntary unpaid leave since they are overstaffed for a few months

Delta plans to grow at 8% per year as well, which is healthy so this might be all they need
All the events you mentioned have nothing to do with 2000+ hires is not sustainable for our future. That will overstaff the airline. We were never going to continue to do that. Middle East, China, is not affecting us. All of our planes are being utilized and we still have markets to grow that we can't due to metal. 220 issues seem legit, 321neo issues won't be a factor for us (like other operators).

Long story short - this was always going to happen even in the best scenario. We also had a jumpstart on hiring. Our competitors will be next at hiring to attrition + moderate growth. Whoever thought this hiring boom of 2500 each legacy was going on forever, I'm sorry. But pre-covid 1100 or even 1500 (we always under promise and over deliver) would have been INSANE hiring, record levels…
tcco94 is offline  
Reply
Old 01-05-2024, 05:24 PM
  #470  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Feb 2015
Position: LAX ER
Posts: 1,606
Default
Originally Posted by sailingfun
They have caught up on 2000 pilots leaving early. It's also math. They need 650 to 700 pilots for growth plus retirements. You also gain jobs any time you reduce or stop hiring as instructors go back to the line.
Even 700 with retirements would be very small growth. My guess is they claim 1100 hires and I bet we are closer to 1500. Unless age 67 happens then it will be under 1000 hires and stuff will just move slow for a while. Or cause mass chaos if ICAO delays and then who knows what.
tcco94 is offline  
Reply
Page 47 of 48
« First
37
43
44
45
46
47
48
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Vacancy Junior Awards
Fly76
American
61
05-13-2023 07:12 PM
What's Life Like for the New Hire?
Deacon211
UPS
42
08-07-2017 09:34 AM
ABX furlough problem
3raser
Cargo
21
12-22-2012 10:01 AM
Attention Furloughed UAL Pilots
DirectLawOnly
United
45
12-05-2012 05:39 AM
FDX furlough?
steamgauge
Cargo
200
12-18-2008 06:25 PM
Back to Subforum
Delta
View Next Unread
“We are in inverse assignment”

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

Thread Tools
Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Your Privacy Choices