But ANCMAN said it was all about politics and cronyism, so the support of the pilots shouldn’t matter.

No system is fully insulated from cronyism. My point was simply that opening the MEC Chairman vote to 16,000+ pilots, the very people who the organization represents, provides much more insulation from cronyism than a poll among a couple dozen politicians. We should have a say as to who fills the role of our most prominent representative.

When you commit a blunder the size of Insler’s, it becomes politically dangerous to continue supporting him. His loss of support wasn’t limited to pilots.

How many reps that voted for DH have been reps for more than 3 terms. How many who voted for the other guy were?

Personally, I’m not a fan of the other guy either. Both were long-time insiders with more concern for their own interests than the interests of the pilot group.

Let the entire pilot group vote and the game changes entirely. We’d be more likely to see a wider selection of quality candidates.

And more candidates we would know nothing about. I’m in favor of debate VIA teams.

Ancman I think your beef is less with the way MEC Chair gets elected and more the unilateral authority they have to settle grievances and how this most recent case went down. In my view making the MEC Chair an even bigger popularity contest solves nothing, and if anything it could invigorate the winner to believe the merit of reaching such status entitles them to make decisions against the will of the MEC. I'd be more interested in further limiting their power rather than giving them justification to consolidate more of it.

The LOA to remove batch sizes should have gone to MEMRAT. Which means we may have actually gotten something for it.

Agreed that it should have gone to memrat. Still standing by to see what we got in that trade.

This has long been the issue, unchecked power and authority. P E B!!! was a direct result of an authortarian talking down to the masses. His deal to settle a grievance was the catalyst to the only ever NO vote. He had a God complex, these are the types that seek the position. They need to be kept in check.