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01-27-2024 | 07:04 PM

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m3113n1a1

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Originally Posted by Gone Flying

I will say as a pilot group, I would like to see us get away from non seniority list instructors.

I would strongly get behind this on the next contract. I'm 99% sure that United doesn't have non-seniority list instructors.

01-27-2024 | 07:15 PM

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Gone Flying

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Originally Posted by m3113n1a1

I would strongly get behind this on the next contract. I'm 99% sure that United doesn't have non-seniority list instructors.

From what I understand that is correct. I believe they have NSLIs teach ground school, but that would not be a problem here.

01-28-2024 | 03:33 AM

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Viper25

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Originally Posted by Rinaldi

as a 7ER LCP I agree with this. The amount of incorrect items students have been told in sim training is amazing.

What specific examples have you seen a lot?

01-28-2024 | 03:57 AM

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CrazyEight

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Originally Posted by 2StgTurbine

In my experience, DGS (or whatever they call it now) have been some of the worst instructors I have ever had in my career. I've been through 6 type ratings at Delta, so I've seen a lot. It seems most of them have never read our current manuals and seemed to be teaching stuff that might have been in the manuals 10-20 years ago, but now aren't. Had one tell me that LGA and JFK airports would never let you fly runway heading after a V1 cut because it would cause other aircraft to go-around. Had another insist that I add 5 knots to the approach speed during a QRH procedure. When I told him that actually the Airway Manual says to NOT add additives under this condition and he said, "Yeah, but the examiner is going to expect you to add 5 knots." All the SLIs seem to be very sharp and can actually back the stuff up they teach with actual references.

I have had a good experience with the recent batch (past few years) of DPS. The DPS instructors are often recently retired with 30+ years of service or from another carrier flying the same fleet type. I have picked up more tips with from the other carrier types than anyone else, primarily because I have already heard the DAL gouge for ages. Getting away from group think and exposing oneself to new concepts is a good thing, something DAL was terrible at for most of my career (this has changed for the better). As far as SLI, I am sorry, great group, but a pilot who has never sat in the left seat is still missing a whole level of experience to teach from.

01-28-2024 | 03:59 AM

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StartngOvr

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If a line pilot has a medical issue (cardiac, diabetes etc.) that places them on long term leave, and then wants to pick up a sim instructor gig, what bucket would he or she be in? DPS or SLI?

01-28-2024 | 04:24 AM

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Sputnik

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Originally Posted by chrisreedrules

No it isn’t. Delta didn’t hire pilots in 2023 for a plane it expects to take delivery of in 2025.

The 73 training dept hired instructors to ataff for the max

01-28-2024 | 04:25 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by StartngOvr

If a line pilot has a medical issue (cardiac, diabetes etc.) that places them on long term leave, and then wants to pick up a sim instructor gig, what bucket would he or she be in? DPS or SLI?

NSLI (aka DPS, formerly DGS).

01-28-2024 | 04:29 AM

#268

Sputnik

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Quote:

Originally Posted by StartngOvr

If a line pilot has a medical issue (cardiac, diabetes etc.) that places them on long term leave, and then wants to pick up a sim instructor gig, what bucket would he or she be in? DPS or SLI?

DPS.

With a caveat, if it was permanent type situation, they can become an FTI, which is a full time job, with benefits (unlike DPS). It requires you to come off seniority list though.