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Old 12-21-2023, 08:20 AM
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I think people should be very careful of dispensing all encompassing advice about diversion decisions.
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Old 12-21-2023, 08:21 AM
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I love that when you’re demonstrably wrong, you just try again instead of taking a second to consider your actions.
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I assume the 330 that diverted into Yakima yesterday sparked this? Seattle was below cat 3 mins, which is why they diverted. Boeing Field and Paine Field were also bouncing around and below minimums.

PDX, which would have been the best place to go, was above minimums, but not by much. If they had tried to go there, and been unsuccessful, then they really, really would have been in a world of hurt.

Vancouver was the only other viable option with customs, maybe being in Canada would have caused a whole other set of problems. Better problems than Yakima perhaps? I don't know. There weren't any better options in the US for them to take though.
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Originally Posted by Nick Bradshaw View Post
Cool. Your 6393rd post (not counting your CBreezy account) of meangingless fluff that contributes nothing. Thanks for weighing in with another inane personal "observation". But hey, another chance to see yourself on the internet and admire your self percieved cleverness.

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you’re thanking me for weighing in inappropriately after you blamed a 27yo for an a330 diversion?
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Old 12-21-2023, 08:28 AM
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I assume the 330 that diverted into Yakima yesterday sparked this? Seattle was below cat 3 mins, which is why they diverted. Boeing Field and Paine Field were also bouncing around and below minimums.

PDX, which would have been the best place to go, was above minimums, but not by much. If they had tried to go there, and been unsuccessful, then they really, really would have been in a world of hurt.

Vancouver was the only other viable option with customs, maybe being in Canada would have caused a whole other set of problems. Better problems than Yakima perhaps? I don't know. There weren't any better options in the US for them to take though.
I don't know the specifics, but it's likely that a whole chain of bad decisions led to arriving at SEA with weather below minimims, and nowhere else to go due to fuel. A more experienced Captain might have seen it coming and left himself more options. PDX, SLC, SFO, YVR, even an early stop in DTW, MSP, or ANC would have been a better choice than painting yourself into a corner and diverting a Widebody International flight to a GA airport in the middle of nowhere. But by all means, tell us to get out of your seats the day we turn 65, experience means nothing. "Equity" is all that matters now.
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Old 12-21-2023, 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Nick Bradshaw View Post
Cool. Your 6393rd post (not counting your CBreezy account) of meangingless fluff that contributes nothing. Thanks for weighing in with another inane personal "observation". But hey, another chance to see yourself on the internet and admire your self percieved cleverness.

Time to put you too on the ignore list.
You gave a blanket statement implying errors have gone up due to young captains without any facts backing it.
Someone implied you could find the facts if you looked.
You gave one example to prove your point that errors are caused by young captains.
He pointed out you pivoted in order to get another moral victory instead of referencing said facts.
You replied emotionally.
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Originally Posted by Nick Bradshaw View Post
I don't know the specifics, but it's likely that a whole chain of bad decisions led to arriving at SEA with weather below minimims, and nowhere else to go due to fuel. A more experienced Captain might have seen it coming and left himself more options. PDX, SLC, SFO, YVR, even an early stop in ANC would have been a better choice than painting yourself into a corner and diverting a Widebody International flight to a GA airport in the middle of nowhere. But by all means, tell us to gewt out of your seats the day we turn 65, experience means nothing. "Equity" is all that matters now.
how experienced do you think the most junior seattle a330 captain is? You’re really trying to make this fit your narrative without taking any time at all to learn first.
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Originally Posted by Nick Bradshaw View Post
I don't know the specifics, but it's likely that a whole chain of bad decisions led to arriving at SEA with weather below minimims, and nowhere else to go due to fuel. A more experienced Captain might have seen it coming and left himself more options. PDX, SLC, SFO, YVR, even an early stop in DTW, MSP, or ANC would have been a better choice than painting yourself into a corner and diverting a Widebody International flight to a GA airport in the middle of nowhere. But by all means, tell us to get out of your seats the day we turn 65, experience means nothing. "Equity" is all that matters now.
The fog in the Seattle area was unforecast (until well after midnight), and Seattle going below cat 3 minimums is rare anyway, but please, do tell us how to aquire and use the crystal ball that you have.
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Originally Posted by Nick Bradshaw View Post
I don't know the specifics, but it's likely that a whole chain of bad decisions led to arriving at SEA with weather below minimims, and nowhere else to go due to fuel. A more experienced Captain might have seen it coming and left himself more options. PDX, SLC, SFO, YVR, even an early stop in DTW, MSP, or ANC would have been a better choice than painting yourself into a corner and diverting a Widebody International flight to a GA airport in the middle of nowhere. But by all means, tell us to get out of your seats the day we turn 65, experience means nothing. "Equity" is all that matters now.
Well the flight came from LHR so some of those alternates are out. Also.. small point, the captain was well over 60 and has been here almost 30 years. So would you just stop your trolling?
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Originally Posted by Nick Bradshaw View Post
I don't know the specifics, but it's likely that a whole chain of bad decisions led to arriving at SEA with weather below minimims, and nowhere else to go due to fuel. A more experienced Captain might have seen it coming and left himself more options. PDX, SLC, SFO, YVR, even an early stop in DTW, MSP, or ANC would have been a better choice than painting yourself into a corner and diverting a Widebody International flight to a GA airport in the middle of nowhere. But by all means, tell us to get out of your seats the day we turn 65, experience means nothing. "Equity" is all that matters now.
So an airport with 121 service is now a "GA airport in the middle of nowhere" simply because you don't like it?
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