Who is released on dual-crewed flight if OE?
12-31-2023, 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Omar 111
If on a scheduled 4 pilot flight, who is released if a LCA is doing OE:
1. Other Captain
2. Senior FO
3. FO originally paired with LCA
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1. Other Captain
2. Senior FO
3. FO originally paired with LCA
TIA
01-01-2024, 08:30 AM
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Originally Posted by crewdawg
Unless the LCA is was paired with the junior FO on a 3 day trip, while the senior FO is on longer trip like a 6 day.
01-01-2024, 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by JamesBond
There are a bunch of these scenarios. And it is astounding how many ways skeds can screw it up. Generally speaking on a multiday trip it would be the FO paired with the LCP. Generally.
So short answer is "as deliniated in the PWA," but practical reality is "the senior F/O" in my experience.
01-01-2024, 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by zippinbye
I had deep immersion in these scenarios when the 350 was a constant churn of OE and TOE. Qualifier: everyone on the same pairing configuration, most often. Senior F/O was outta there. Either way, somebody not the original two F/Os is sitting in the right seat 1/2 the time and for TO & Landing. So it was pretty clear that the top F/O was removed, most often after checking in, which sucked. But the truly senior (3 digit F/Os) were often walking to a different gate for some green action. #1 was building houses in all his spare time, and clocking big cash on the days he served Delta. Good work if you can get it!
So short answer is "as deliniated in the PWA," but practical reality is "the senior F/O" in my experience.
So short answer is "as deliniated in the PWA," but practical reality is "the senior F/O" in my experience.
01-01-2024, 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by DWC CAP10 USAF
Once checked in, wouldn't it be illigal to "walking to a different gate for some green action" without a rest period first?
If not released prior to sign-in, whether you personally "sign-in" or not, then yes, it would be illegal. Then again we have guys who love to reach out to scheduling and work their own reroutes sidetracking the PWA, so nothing would surprise me. Yes, I understand one is a CFR violation and one is likely only a PWA violation, but if you're willing to do one, you're like willing to do the other for a little extra coin.
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