I'm glad we can agree that abandoning her principles was about the money, and not about all those sham altruistic reasons like "mentoring" and "the pilot shortage" and "the flying public."


Yes, it was simply a failed cash grab.

Thanks for your candor.

Training at Delta is hard for me. The "teach yourself" especially before videos and any real human resources to interact with made me feel unprepared. I do like the old school classroom interaction including side chats during breaks to verify my understanding. Alas AQP is the way now. The testing and jeopardy was worse then but you didn't feel like I might be missing something big. If it was covered in class you had access to information source. I guess I'm a slow learner AND a terrible teacher. That said, I never busted and it turned out fine but there were times I felt completely under prepared. I guess I just need an afirming life coach or something.

The best ground school ever was at AA. Had your own cubicle with audio visual aids and roving instructors. It was open 24 hours. Just put your test paper in the slot. Easy peezy. Bummer, instructors there only during duty hours.

Although his gesture was cringy, I know plenty of people on disability for many ailments that wouldn’t stop them for being an Olympic athlete. Just walking through the airport, I see plenty of “juniors” pushing the limits of what “appears” healthy. oh the irony..

Thats not the point. He wants to “work” for two more years.

So much truth here.

But if the Olympic athlete fails to clean and jerk 690lbs, people don't die.

I know what you are saying, but I don't see how anyone (not saying you are) can defend the actions of Delta Dave, a pilot trying to say that he and a majority of pilots approaching 65 are in peak (enough) physical condition to keep working until age 67, while he himself is considered "disabled" by the currrent medical requirments.

I wish people would just be more straightforward like that. We haven’t needed the mentorship of pilots aged 66 before. The time period we were in a pilot shortage was less than the time needed to pass a bill. The 24 year old is flying a 737 instead of an ERJ. Same passengers, just different leg of the passengers trip.

I think the Delta Dave fiasco was a little underhanded. They should’ve come out and said, “He is coming up on 65. He is not currently able to fly, but is trying to get back into the cockpit to finish out his career.”

Stuff like this what the age 67 push so smarmy.

Maybe () he could be an athlete, but if you aren’t medically fit to perform the job at the time, you don’t strip in congress to show you are medically fit enough to perform the job for two more years.

You’re not against the grain. Quite frankly Delta’s training kind of sucks. The information is spread across a vast number of resources and it’s completely unrealistic to expect pilots to know where/how to find it all. And the company certainly doesn’t teach that stuff very well. It’s mostly all self-led instruction… So rather than fix the actual problems (our awful manuals) they teach the gouge here. We’re a learn the gouge airline… And that is a big problem in my opinion.