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Old 03-05-2024 | 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Hotel Kilo
where's the "commuter friendly" hat??
That was a PB brainchild, along with the SB jacket. Now that he’s gone, I suspect the “commutable” hat will die on the vine.

And I won’t be suprised if the SB jacket also goes away with PB’s departure.
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Old 03-05-2024 | 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by FangsF15
That was a PB brainchild, along with the SB jacket. Now that he’s gone, I suspect the “commutable” hat will die on the vine.

And I won’t be suprised if the SB jacket also goes away with PB’s departure.
I’m actually of the opinion that Burns is a primary reason why there weren’t MORE changes to our uniform program this time around.
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Making the hat optional is the only way to make it truly “commuter friendly”. As the older generation gives way to the younger in increasingly high levels of Flight Ops management, it’s only a matter of time before our outdated hat policy dies.
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Old 03-05-2024 | 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by FangsF15
That was a PB brainchild, along with the SB jacket. Now that he’s gone, I suspect the “commutable” hat will die on the vine.

And I won’t be suprised if the SB jacket also goes away with PB’s departure.
The best commuter friendly hat is.......




No hat!!!
(and I'm an old guy. Still sans hat since 2017)
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Old 03-05-2024 | 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by ancman
I’m actually of the opinion that Burns is a primary reason why there weren’t MORE changes to our uniform program this time around.
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Making the hat optional is the only way to make it truly “commuter friendly”. As the older generation gives way to the younger in increasingly high levels of Flight Ops management, it’s only a matter of time before our outdated hat policy dies.
You're wrong there. PB was all behind it.
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Old 03-05-2024 | 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Hotel Kilo
You're wrong there. PB was all behind it.
Obviously he signed off on the current GPS uniform program. But at his core, he’s a traditionalist. It was clear from reading his response to our uniform survey a couple years ago that he was resistant to any major changes to our “iconic” look.

He was also known to get angry and emotional when addressing hats during the “hats off” campaign.
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Old 03-05-2024 | 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by ancman
Obviously he signed off on the current GPS uniform program. But at his core, he’s a traditionalist. It was clear from reading his response to our uniform survey a couple years ago that he was resistant to any major changes to our “iconic” look.

He was also known to get angry and emotional when addressing hatless pilots during the “hats off” campaign.
No not really. It was his baby all the way
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Old 03-05-2024 | 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Hotel Kilo
No not really. It was his baby all the way
I’m not disputing that he supported the GPS uniform program. I’m simply saying that the “new uniforms” are mostly just a lower-quality version of our old uniform program, without any major changes to the overall look or hat policy. That was PB-driven. With different leadership, the possibility of a more industry standard uniform policy exists here.
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Old 03-05-2024 | 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by ancman
I’m not disputing that he supported the GPS uniform program. I’m simply saying that the “new uniforms” are mostly just a lower-quality version of our old uniform program, without any major changes to the overall look or hat policy. That was PB-driven. With different leadership, the possibility of a more industry standard uniform policy exists here.
Ahhh, ok gotcha.
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Old 03-05-2024 | 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Hotel Kilo
No not really. It was his baby all the way
ive never met PB, but from his comms and what others have said about him, he always seemed like how ancman described…a hat guy and someone who liked our “iconic look”. And because of that our new uniforms really don’t differ that much from our old ones.

I think we have a much better chance of an optional hat or even a north face style jacket with BS than we did with PB.
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Old 03-05-2024 | 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by ancman
I’m not disputing that he supported the GPS uniform program. I’m simply saying that the “new uniforms” are mostly just a lower-quality version of our old uniform program, without any major changes to the overall look or hat policy. That was PB-driven. With different leadership, the possibility of a more industry standard uniform policy exists here.
All I know is that if we truly want to embrace the sea captain look, we need sea captain beards.
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