"P" on the trip coverage report?
#11
They haven’t actually done IA’s that aren’t proffers in years. In reality, they skip everything in contract, have computer cold call everyone, and first one to get back to scheduling gets it. This lead to pilots calling scheduling before even the GS process played out and asked for the trip. It’s not supposed to happen like this and we gave up unlimited batch sizes to eliminate it.
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As a commuter, IAs have been treated as proffers for the last year at least. The automated system asked you to press a button to be connected to a scheduler if you’re able to accept the trip. I’ve even called back (officially making contact) to let them know what time I COULD get there and been told no, they’d wait for someone who could get there quicker. Never felt that I would be required to accept a trip on IA. Haven’t been called for inverse since the 23.M fiasco.
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They haven’t actually done IA’s that aren’t proffers in years. In reality, they skip everything in contract, have computer cold call everyone, and first one to get back to scheduling gets it. This lead to pilots calling scheduling before even the GS process played out and asked for the trip. It’s not supposed to happen like this and we gave up unlimited batch sizes to eliminate it.
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Sure seems to me that the junior available pilot should be pay protected, i.e. the harmed pilot.
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But what if there are 2 or 3 or 15 junior available pilots (for example) for a 3-day IA? Saw that happen last year more than once. Maybe DALPA can give away $millions more of leverage to find out from the company via an unauditable document.
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Well, Deferred implementation of 23 W. 1. D. (Direct Database/API read-only access to DBMS) could go a very, very long way to solving that problem when/if it is finally implemented. Not sure how many people realize how massive that win from the new contract will be when it finally comes to fruition. Negotiating leverage has already been spent (and won) to audit everything scheduling related.
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such a foolish decision. The root problem I think came from the fact that an lA is double pay and single credit but not limited by the gs ladder order (1,2,3, etc). We could have investigated a trial period of issuing ia’s in seniority order (for example) before giving away batch size. Or several other options.
#19
If you actually ran IA the way it was supposed to, under the current envrionment, the senior pilots would lose their minds, because now you're letting junior go first for a no-trigger green slip. That would last all of 10 minutes before the reps got floodeded with calls from senior pilots demanding a change. OTOH, if they actually went by the list, and forced junior people to work on days off who didn't want to, there'd be a similar revolt.
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such a foolish decision. The root problem I think came from the fact that an lA is double pay and single credit but not limited by the gs ladder order (1,2,3, etc). We could have investigated a trial period of issuing ia’s in seniority order (for example) before giving away batch size. Or several other options.
Just a thought for future contracts but maybe the G#1 code for a 5.25 trip shouldn't be treated the same as G#1 for a 21 hr trip. Maybe add a conditional accept option that says I'll only keep it if it's gone unclaimed through the list, and then it would turn into G#0. Or maybe I should stop overthinking these one-day proffers and suck up occasionally shooting myself in the foot 🤪
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