Delta loves profit sharing!
02-23-2024, 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by 170Till5
ALPA sent out a whole email breaking down the history of profit sharing
02-23-2024, 11:45 PM
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Originally Posted by 170Till5
ALPA sent out a whole email breaking down the history of profit sharing
02-24-2024, 12:32 AM
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Originally Posted by fishforfun
Do all the employee groups get the ALPA emails? Why on earth do we need to educate the pilot group?
Plus all the ALPA haters need to be reminded that they're upper middle classes citizens today NOT because the company decided to pay us all this money out of the kindness of their heart.
02-24-2024, 04:06 AM
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Originally Posted by fishforfun
Do all the employee groups get the ALPA emails? Why on earth do we need to educate the pilot group?
I submit ALPA sending out the history of PS is an outstanding use of our dues dollars. Having a written document to go back to is a worthy effort.
02-24-2024, 06:29 AM
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Originally Posted by FangsF15
Well over half the seniority list was not here when PS was last touched, much less started. They don't know the history of LOA 46 & 51, TA1, Moak, Pension loss/theft, etc. unless people tell them. And even then, folks that weren't here probably need to hear it a couple times since they didn't live it. Not many Captains are spending cruise or layovers doing that deep education.
I submit ALPA sending out the history of PS is an outstanding use of our dues dollars. Having a written document to go back to is a worthy effort.
I submit ALPA sending out the history of PS is an outstanding use of our dues dollars. Having a written document to go back to is a worthy effort.
02-24-2024, 07:13 AM
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Originally Posted by hockeypilot44
To us. Needs to be sent out to other employee groups.
Now if they were all uniononized, that would be different. But they are not (yet).
02-24-2024, 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by FangsF15
Well over half the seniority list was not here when PS was last touched, much less started. They don't know the history of LOA 46 & 51, TA1, Moak, Pension loss/theft, etc. unless people tell them. And even then, folks that weren't here probably need to hear it a couple times since they didn't live it. Not many Captains are spending cruise or layovers doing that deep education.
I submit ALPA sending out the history of PS is an outstanding use of our dues dollars. Having a written document to go back to is a worthy effort.
I submit ALPA sending out the history of PS is an outstanding use of our dues dollars. Having a written document to go back to is a worthy effort.
02-24-2024, 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Meme In Command
You'd be shocked at the amount of mil guys and other ex non-union pilots that come in asking "why the hell do I need to pay union dues for?"
Plus all the ALPA haters need to be reminded that they're upper middle classes citizens today NOT because the company decided to pay us all this money out of the kindness of their heart.
Plus all the ALPA haters need to be reminded that they're upper middle classes citizens today NOT because the company decided to pay us all this money out of the kindness of their heart.
The only way 90% of those that think that way learn to change is when something bad happens to them. They get pinched by the CPO, they get, God forbid, a medical problem, or the company wrongs them in some way. Then they'll be ALPA's biggest supporter.
I've run into these people my whole career. Seen them come and go.
02-24-2024, 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by HelloNewnan
Very little chance that anything you say or do will change their mind. They'll chalk it up to programming, propoganda or wasting even more of their dues dollars. Look at them complain about paying dues on profit sharing, like the company just gives that to us. The only exception to that is if you're a close friend, and they'll listen to you if you try to give a course correction.
The only way 90% of those that think that way learn to change is when something bad happens to them. They get pinched by the CPO, they get, God forbid, a medical problem, or the company wrongs them in some way. Then they'll be ALPA's biggest supporter.
I've run into these people my whole career. Seen them come and go.
The only way 90% of those that think that way learn to change is when something bad happens to them. They get pinched by the CPO, they get, God forbid, a medical problem, or the company wrongs them in some way. Then they'll be ALPA's biggest supporter.
I've run into these people my whole career. Seen them come and go.
Spot on & need 10 characters.
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