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Old 09-26-2024 | 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by 170Till5
upgrades are going to go to 10-15 years at Delta here soon… go to UAL if you can. Their reserve rules are getting much better as this contract is getting implemented. Only reason to come to DL is if you want to live in ATL
10-15 years? Whaaaa? UA isn't in the cards man.
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Old 09-26-2024 | 03:25 PM
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I actually had a UA interview. Didn't go because I was just starting training at SWA (and our training is a meat grinder where you train for two months straight and have like two days off). Regardless, I won't commute long term and my wife and I just don't care for their bases at all. Delta's ATL or SLC, on the other hand, are quite enticing.
Commuting is [un-pins gernade, throws it down stairwell], suboptimal.

ATL: Peach Tree City. Just do it. You'll learn to love the golf cart lifestyle.

SLC: Holy moly, this place got expensive. Research "the inversion". It's a thing. Move outside it (which sadly means a longer drive). Otherwise, SLC rocks.
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Old 09-26-2024 | 03:32 PM
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Commuting is [un-pins gernade, throws it down stairwell], suboptimal.

ATL: Peach Tree City. Just do it. You'll learn to love the golf cart lifestyle.

SLC: Holy moly, this place got expensive. Research "the inversion". It's a thing. Move outside it (which sadly means a longer drive). Otherwise, SLC rocks.
Yea I used to fly to Peach Tree a lot when I flew Corporate. Alpharetta is nice too and is actually where my wife's US company HQs is. SLC is a lot like where I live now. Expensive and rising.
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Old 09-26-2024 | 03:40 PM
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Reality is I don't even know if I could get an interview. A fellow APC'r says average Delta interviewee time is about 5000 hours. I figured a 737 type, 4 year degree, and a few thousand hours of 121 time would be enough, but maybe not. Delta was hiring a lot of SWA guys with a lot less time for a while, but maybe that's gone.
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Old 09-26-2024 | 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Fly90
Reality is I don't even know if I could get an interview. A fellow APC'r says average Delta interviewee time is about 5000 hours. I figured a 737 type, 4 year degree, and a few thousand hours of 121 time would be enough, but maybe not. Delta was hiring a lot of SWA guys with a lot less time for a while, but maybe that's gone.
1st thing is apply. Then pass the cog, get an interview. Then get the CJO. If you start applying TODAY, we are talking class anywhere between February and April.

We are still interviewing and those in the pool is for the beginning of next year. You might have a chance since you are already in a major. You actually have better chance than someone from a regional.

But any day that passes that you don’t apply, you keep missing out. Once you have the CJO you’ll have plenty of time to decide.

good luck!
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Old 09-26-2024 | 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Fly90
Reality is I don't even know if I could get an interview. A fellow APC'r says average Delta interviewee time is about 5000 hours. I figured a 737 type, 4 year degree, and a few thousand hours of 121 time would be enough, but maybe not. Delta was hiring a lot of SWA guys with a lot less time for a while, but maybe that's gone.
You don't know unless you apply. Let them make the call.
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Old 09-26-2024 | 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by 170Till5
upgrades are going to go to 10-15 years at Delta here soon… go to UAL if you can. Their reserve rules are getting much better as this contract is getting implemented. Only reason to come to DL is if you want to live in ATL
0/3 of these statements are true...
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Old 09-26-2024 | 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by iLikeMoose
0/3 of these statements are true...
Haha, that's awesome. It's almost like listening to a politician speak. Put in your app and come on over if you get hired. You'll love it and should easily get ATL or SLC pretty quickly. Good luck!

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Old 09-26-2024 | 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by iLikeMoose
0/3 of these statements are true...
he’s actually right about the upgrade time. This was an internal delta projection from last year. It’s not something they put on posters, but senior leadership was telling pilot hiring staff that in training. Anyone hired after 2025 should expect to sit in the right seat for 10 years

edit: I’m not saying it will come to be. But it was definitely said by people who meant it.
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Old 09-26-2024 | 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Fly90
Reality is I don't even know if I could get an interview. A fellow APC'r says average Delta interviewee time is about 5000 hours. I figured a 737 type, 4 year degree, and a few thousand hours of 121 time would be enough, but maybe not. Delta was hiring a lot of SWA guys with a lot less time for a while, but maybe that's gone.
It sounds like you have a pretty realistic outlook. I know things are looking bleak over at SWA right now. I've flown with some pilots that bailed from SWA recently and heard some stories. BUT, just make sure you've thought this through. SWA is more than likely just going through a lowpoint and will recover. Things aren't perfect here and don't believe all the hype doomsayers at your current airline say.

Upgrade time is going to be a while with the exception of a few outliers and even then you'll be a junior CA forever. It's still an amazing job either way but just come in with your eyes open to that. Being only 30 you have plenty of time.

I'd say apply and get a CJO and then you can decide. Until then keep doing your research. Your union probably has a contract comparison which would be helpful to see the differences between the two airlines.

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