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Old 11-22-2024 | 06:43 PM
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delta sticks to the hiring projections, until they don’t. 1000 ain’t gonna happen
If your favorite president keeps cutting regulations in his new term and letting the economy roar (as well as drilling for oil) then we could be at 1,500 at the end of the year. The wealth effect is real. There are thousands of newly minted millionaires this month. Elections have consequences.
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Old 11-22-2024 | 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Nantonaku
If your favorite president keeps cutting regulations in his new term and letting the economy roar (as well as drilling for oil) then we could be at 1,500 at the end of the year. The wealth effect is real. There are thousands of newly minted millionaires this month. Elections have consequences.
Unless our favorite president gets Boeing and Airbus to deliver planes on time, that ain’t happening.

I am always amused by people who think things will magically change in some huge way. Barring insanely high tariffs or essentially impossible levels of mass deportation to crash the economy, absolutely nothing will change on a scale that quick. The economic impact of most policies is measured on the scale of years to decades.

The most likely policy to affect hiring immediately would be age 67. That would probably result in a reduction of 300-400 pilots needed per year for two years.
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Old 11-22-2024 | 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Nantonaku
If your favorite president keeps cutting regulations in his new term and letting the economy roar (as well as drilling for oil) then we could be at 1,500 at the end of the year. The wealth effect is real. There are thousands of newly minted millionaires this month. Elections have consequences.
Drill all you want the refineries in the US are not set up to refine the type of oil we have in abundance here in the US. They’re set up to refine oil from the Middle East, if they refined US oil they’d do so at a loss. That’s why we export all of our oil. But hey, pilots know everything…

Anyway where are the new AEs!?
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Old 11-23-2024 | 03:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Nantonaku
If your favorite president keeps cutting regulations in his new term and letting the economy roar (as well as drilling for oil) then we could be at 1,500 at the end of the year. The wealth effect is real. There are thousands of newly minted millionaires this month. Elections have consequences.
A President doesn't change geology. The shale production in the Permian Basin Permian Basin is plateau'n at best, declining at worst. Deepwater drilling in the Gulf of Mexico is the best bet for drill baby drill but high spec Rigs are in extremely short supply and it takes 5 years and $1B to build a new one.
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Old 11-23-2024 | 03:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Flyler
Drill all you want the refineries in the US are not set up to refine the type of oil we have in abundance here in the US. They’re set up to refine oil from the Middle East, if they refined US oil they’d do so at a loss. That’s why we export all of our oil. But hey, pilots know everything…

Anyway where are the new AEs!?
Where did you get that information?

Most shale oil in the United States is refined at large-scale refineries, with a significant concentration along the Gulf Coast, particularly in Texas and Louisiana. These refineries are equipped to handle the unique composition of shale oil and process it into various petroleum products.
  1. Texas
    • Marathon Galveston Bay Refinery in Texas City (631,000 bpd capacity)
    • Motiva Port Arthur Refinery in Port Arthur (626,000 bpd capacity)
    • ExxonMobil Beaumont Refinery in Beaumont (609,024 bpd capacity)
    • ExxonMobil Baytown Refinery in Baytown (564,440 bpd capacity)
  2. Louisiana
    • Marathon Garyville Refinery in Garyville (597,000 bpd capacity)
    • ExxonMobil Baton Rouge Refinery in Baton Rouge (522,500 bpd capacity)
    • Citgo Lake Charles Refinery in Lake Charles (455,000 bpd capacity)
  3. Other Locations
    • BP Whiting Refinery in Whiting, Indiana (435,000 bpd capacity)
    • Marathon Los Angeles Refinery in Carson, California (365,000 bpd capacity)

Shale oil is refined into various petroleum products, similar to conventional crude oil. However, the primary products obtained from shale oil refining are:

Transportation Fuels

Gasoline: A significant portion of refined shale oil is converted into gasoline for use in automobiles

Diesel fuel: Shale oil is well-suited for producing middle distillates, including diesel fuel.

​​​​​​​Jet fuel: Another important middle distillate product obtained from shale oil refining
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Old 11-23-2024 | 03:46 AM
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The US produced the most oil of any country ever in the history of time in 2023…….

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Old 11-23-2024 | 04:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Hubcapped
The US produced the most oil of any country ever in the history of time in 2023…….
Will these refineries be biddable on the next AE?
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Old 11-23-2024 | 04:40 AM
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Originally Posted by DWC CAP10 USAF
Will these refineries be biddable on the next AE?
Yes, oil rig helos MSY, but I heard Jan not Dec. my last van driver told me.
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Old 11-23-2024 | 05:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Whoopsmybad
Yes, oil rig helos MSY, but I heard Jan not Dec. my last van driver told me.
and that of course means it’s new thread time
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Originally Posted by Trip7
Where did you get that information?
Originally Posted by Hubcapped
The US produced the most oil of any country ever in the history of time in 2023…….
Here is a rough synopsis. Yes we produce lots of oil but there are different grades of oil. Almost ALL oil drilled in the US is exported.

https://www.api.org/news-policy-and-...and-export-oil
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