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Old 12-27-2024 | 05:26 AM
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I don't see it happening until there is an abundance of -300s. Most days, arrivals in ATL exceed VFR capacity necessitating a flow time to spread out the arrivals. The problem within the industry is the overutilization of existing hubs meaning that growth can only come via larger airframes or through redeyes. Much like the CR7/9 put the nails in the 50-seat coffin, the 737 adn 321 will likely do the same to the 100-seater by some point.

The only hope airlines have for keeping up with annual increases in flying is to open or re-open some of the older hubs. The ULCC have found a niche in sniping the higher yield point to point, but eventually the main carriers will defend that turf as well.
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Old 12-27-2024 | 06:10 AM
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Originally Posted by crewdawg
We've been getting some 717 transcons latel, MSP-CLT, MSP-EWR and MSP-BDL. Terrible, way too much time in the air, especially in the winter doing BDL-MSP. Someone needs to take that crap back.
Just becuase you changed one timezone, doesn't mean it's a transcon...😜
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Old 12-27-2024 | 06:24 AM
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Originally Posted by DWC CAP10 USAF
Just becuase you changed one timezone, doesn't mean it's a transcon...😜

Agree to disagree 🤣. Anything that still has over 60 minutes to TOD after I hit TOC, is just a drag lol.
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Old 12-27-2024 | 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by crewdawg
Agree to disagree 🤣. Anything that still has over 60 minutes to TOD after I hit TOC, is just a drag lol.
agreed! Flying WB would be cool for the bank account and cool locales, but I don’t know if I can take the boredom. 😝
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Old 12-27-2024 | 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by NoDeskJob
agreed! Flying WB would be cool for the bank account and cool locales, but I don’t know if I can take the boredom. 😝
100% or the exhaustion. Keep me in one time zone please 😂
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Old 12-27-2024 | 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by 3 green
A large portion of the short haul flights on the 717 have gone to the 737 over the years..Now the 717 does a lot of longer flights like MSP, EWR, YUL, MSN, ORD, DTW, MCI, DSM, DAL, HOU, OKC, OMA, etc....
This has proably had a correlation with the lion air jet acquisition that gave Delta 30ish 737's that have been range restricted. Those jets are beginning to get the interior phase II overhaul and re-fit.This will put those jets back into the normal mid-con and Transcon mix. I would expect to see the 717 going back to more short lenth stage lenghts as the -73 resumes more of it traidtional flying.
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Old 12-27-2024 | 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by David Puddy
Flew on a 717 recently and was not impressed. No IFE and very loud. Personally, if given the choice between a 717 or an E175, I'd rather fly on a quieter E175 (neither offers IFE). I thought Ed was interested in making all fleet types more business friendly? That is certainly not the case with the 717. Clearly with 90+ airframes, it won't be easy to find a 717 replacement in the near term.

But, with the A220-300s occasionally cycling through ATL (to IAD, EWR, BUR & SBA), how long before we start seeing A220-100s and 300s based out of ATL to cater more to the business travelers who might not like the DC-9 NEO?

Any predictions on when we could see an A220 base out of ATL? How many more A220s need to be delivered before that becomes a possibility? Considering the range flexibility of the A220 (both short and long/thin route options), I can imagine the route planners would salivate over potential route pairings with the A220 100/300 out of ATL.
Thanks Puddy, I needed a good laugh today.
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Old 12-27-2024 | 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by GeneralLee
Thanks Puddy, I needed a good laugh today.
D-9 NEO is perfect!
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Old 12-28-2024 | 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by David Puddy
Considering the range flexibility of the A220 (both short and long/thin route options), I can imagine the route planners would salivate over potential route pairings with the A220 100/300 out of ATL.
why haven’t they done it yet, then?
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Old 12-28-2024 | 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by StoneQOLdCrazy
why haven’t they done it yet, then?
To a small extent they have. The 220 does ATL to Burbank and Santa Barbara. I’d call those long and thin. It also does a bit of ATL IAD which is a more traditional 717 route, but maybe they’re trying to capture some better business travelers with the better onboard product.

In the end I just don’t think there’s enough long markets out of ATL that only warrant a 220 vs 737/321. As we grow the fleet there will be more 220 flying naturally mixed into ATL but it’ll be a long time before we see a sea of T tails in C concourse replaced with 220s.
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