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Old 12-26-2024 | 06:30 PM
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Flew on a 717 recently and was not impressed. No IFE and very loud. Personally, if given the choice between a 717 or an E175, I'd rather fly on a quieter E175 (neither offers IFE). I thought Ed was interested in making all fleet types more business friendly? That is certainly not the case with the 717. Clearly with 90+ airframes, it won't be easy to find a 717 replacement in the near term.

But, with the A220-300s occasionally cycling through ATL (to IAD, EWR, BUR & SBA), how long before we start seeing A220-100s and 300s based out of ATL to cater more to the business travelers who might not like the DC-9 NEO?

Any predictions on when we could see an A220 base out of ATL? How many more A220s need to be delivered before that becomes a possibility? Considering the range flexibility of the A220 (both short and long/thin route options), I can imagine the route planners would salivate over potential route pairings with the A220 100/300 out of ATL.
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Old 12-26-2024 | 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by David Puddy
Flew on a 717 recently and was not impressed. No IFE and very loud. Personally, if given the choice between a 717 or an E175, I'd rather fly on a quieter E175 (neither offers IFE). I thought Ed was interested in making all fleet types more business friendly? That is certainly not the case with the 717. Clearly with 90+ airframes, it won't be easy to find a 717 replacement in the near term.

But, with the A220-300s occasionally cycling through ATL (to IAD, EWR, BUR & SBA), how long before we start seeing A220-100s and 300s based out of ATL to cater more to the business travelers who might not like the DC-9 NEO?

Any predictions on when we could see an A220 base out of ATL? How many more A220s need to be delivered before that becomes a possibility? Considering the range flexibility of the A220 (both short and long/thin route options), I can imagine the route planners would salivate over potential route pairings with the A220 100/300 out of ATL.
Think we'll see MSP or BOS as the next 220 base. It's going to be a while before we see ATL 220. We're only getting 8 more next year I think.
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Old 12-26-2024 | 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by David Puddy
Flew on a 717 recently and was not impressed. No IFE and very loud. Personally, if given the choice between a 717 or an E175, I'd rather fly on a quieter E175 (neither offers IFE). I thought Ed was interested in making all fleet types more business friendly? That is certainly not the case with the 717. Clearly with 90+ airframes, it won't be easy to find a 717 replacement in the near term.

But, with the A220-300s occasionally cycling through ATL (to IAD, EWR, BUR & SBA), how long before we start seeing A220-100s and 300s based out of ATL to cater more to the business travelers who might not like the DC-9 NEO?

Any predictions on when we could see an A220 base out of ATL? How many more A220s need to be delivered before that becomes a possibility? Considering the range flexibility of the A220 (both short and long/thin route options), I can imagine the route planners would salivate over potential route pairings with the A220 100/300 out of ATL.
Puddy still loves him some 220 😉

Supposedly, ATL is the last base the 220 will get. When is the last non-option delivery???
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Old 12-26-2024 | 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by David Puddy
Flew on a 717 recently and was not impressed. No IFE and very loud. Personally, if given the choice between a 717 or an E175, I'd rather fly on a quieter E175 (neither offers IFE). I thought Ed was interested in making all fleet types more business friendly? That is certainly not the case with the 717. Clearly with 90+ airframes, it won't be easy to find a 717 replacement in the near term.

But, with the A220-300s occasionally cycling through ATL (to IAD, EWR, BUR & SBA), how long before we start seeing A220-100s and 300s based out of ATL to cater more to the business travelers who might not like the DC-9 NEO?

Any predictions on when we could see an A220 base out of ATL? How many more A220s need to be delivered before that becomes a possibility? Considering the range flexibility of the A220 (both short and long/thin route options), I can imagine the route planners would salivate over potential route pairings with the A220 100/300 out of ATL.
Probably a while. While the A220-100 seats the same as a 717, it is not a 717 replacement. The 717 is the short haul workhorse. Only a handful of flights are scheduled over 2 hours in the air. 8-10 cycles a day. The A220 does mostly long and thin routes. We’re not going to run 8 flights a day ATL-CAE on a 220. Most long routes out of ATL have enough demand to fill a 320/321 or 737. Whenever the 717s go away I’ll bet 50%+ of those routes get upgaged to a 737, 30-40% to the real Airbii, and only 10-20% end up on the 220.
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Originally Posted by FangsF15
Puddy still loves him some 220 😉

Supposedly, ATL is the last base the 220 will get. When is the last non-option delivery???
I was gonna say the same thing. He really is dedicated. I remember all his posts around 2017 time frame fan-boying over the 220 while the lawsuit with Boeing was going on. I'm glad things haven't changed
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Old 12-27-2024 | 04:18 AM
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Originally Posted by David Puddy
Flew on a 717 recently and was not impressed. No IFE and very loud. Personally, if given the choice between a 717 or an E175, I'd rather fly on a quieter E175 (neither offers IFE). I thought Ed was interested in making all fleet types more business friendly? That is certainly not the case with the 717. Clearly with 90+ airframes, it won't be easy to find a 717 replacement in the near term.

But, with the A220-300s occasionally cycling through ATL (to IAD, EWR, BUR & SBA), how long before we start seeing A220-100s and 300s based out of ATL to cater more to the business travelers who might not like the DC-9 NEO?

Any predictions on when we could see an A220 base out of ATL? How many more A220s need to be delivered before that becomes a possibility? Considering the range flexibility of the A220 (both short and long/thin route options), I can imagine the route planners would salivate over potential route pairings with the A220 100/300 out of ATL.
You'll see an ATL 220 base about the same time hell freezes over .
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Originally Posted by overqualified52
You'll see an ATL 220 base about the same time hell freezes over .
Better chance of Endeavor having a 175 base in ATL.
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Originally Posted by overqualified52
You'll see an ATL 220 base about the same time hell freezes over .
Or when Delta decides to retire the fleet. All fleets must come home to ATL to die. 😁
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Old 12-27-2024 | 05:10 AM
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Probably a while. While the A220-100 seats the same as a 717, it is not a 717 replacement. The 717 is the short haul workhorse. Only a handful of flights are scheduled over 2 hours in the air. 8-10 cycles a day. The A220 does mostly long and thin routes. We’re not going to run 8 flights a day ATL-CAE on a 220. Most long routes out of ATL have enough demand to fill a 320/321 or 737. Whenever the 717s go away I’ll bet 50%+ of those routes get upgaged to a 737, 30-40% to the real Airbii, and only 10-20% end up on the 220.
A large portion of the short haul flights on the 717 have gone to the 737 over the years..Now the 717 does a lot of longer flights like MSP, EWR, YUL, MSN, ORD, DTW, MCI, DSM, DAL, HOU, OKC, OMA, etc....
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Old 12-27-2024 | 05:17 AM
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Originally Posted by 3 green
A large portion of the short haul flights on the 717 have gone to the 737 over the years..Now the 717 does a lot of longer flights like MSP, EWR, YUL, MSN, ORD, DTW, MCI, DSM, DAL, HOU, OKC, OMA, etc....

We've been getting some 717 transcons latel, MSP-CLT, MSP-EWR and MSP-BDL. Terrible, way too much time in the air, especially in the winter doing BDL-MSP. Someone needs to take that crap back.
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