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rickair7777 07-23-2025 05:53 PM


Originally Posted by cencal83406 (Post 3931166)
Any particular reason you’d assume you can’t get compensated for a government action shown to have been harmful and incorrect?


Originally Posted by saltbae (Post 3931168)
police departments paying millions in settlements every day to victims

That's the fairly rare exception, not the rule. Qualified immunity tends to be the default and you have to prove otherwise.

All governments pretty much have qualified immunity in some form... the degree of that, and the remedies available to the subjects varies widely.

With that said there is a growing movement to limit qualified immunity in the US, since it is generous enough to encourage a lot of abuse.

Recliner 07-23-2025 05:53 PM


Originally Posted by RedeyeWarrior (Post 3931185)
You are foolish to even attempt the field sobriety test. It is not designed to prove sobriety. Better call Saul!

Field sobriety testing is sketchy stuff. Refusing the FST does not trigger implied consent consequences in any state.

rickair7777 07-23-2025 06:04 PM


Originally Posted by RedeyeWarrior (Post 3931185)
You are foolish to even attempt the field sobriety test. It is not designed to prove sobriety. Better call Saul!

The FAA/DOT I believe will treat refusal as a positive? Not sure if that applies to field sobriety test as well as blood test.

11atsomto 07-23-2025 06:10 PM


Originally Posted by METO Guido (Post 3930848)
Don’t they use some kind of sniffing device over there? One of the previous euro net perps blew well below US dui thresholds. Swedes are known to hit it pretty hard.

This 100%. I don’t really think people realize how tight the European standards are. As I understand it, that is partly why at some shops there is a 12 hour rule as opposed to the standard FAA 8. Her blow was her blow but the first thought in my mind was not a ****faced pilot…..it was perhaps someone who miscalculated their departure time. Sadly to the internet news it’s the same thing.

METO Guido 07-23-2025 07:20 PM


Originally Posted by RedeyeWarrior (Post 3931185)
You are foolish to even attempt the field sobriety test. It is not designed to prove sobriety. Better call Saul!

Imo, yes. Roadside sobriety. Your nearest door to hims. Blow or refuse. No better $ spent than a cab from trouble. Worried about the new Lexus, have it towed. Saul bills at $400 an hour for asset nesting clients. Like you & me.

Khantahr 07-23-2025 08:50 PM


Originally Posted by METO Guido (Post 3931221)
Imo, yes. Roadside sobriety. Your nearest door to hims. Blow or refuse. No better $ spent than a cab from trouble. Worried about the new Lexus, have it towed. Saul bills at $400 an hour for asset nesting clients. Like you & me.

My brain hurts after trying to read that.

METO Guido 07-23-2025 10:06 PM


Originally Posted by Khantahr (Post 3931229)
My brain hurts after trying to read that.

Then a traffic stop or fender bender shouldn’t concern you cruising home from Pancho’s. Not to say there aren’t other routes to a hims eval. Domestic abuse complaint, slugfest with a neighbor, urinating in public, ER treatment as result of injuries/illness for dubious reasons. Disclosing symptomatic depression on form 8500-8.

DUI defense firms typically have little objection representing clients with adequate ability to pay. Get a ride.

sailingfun 07-24-2025 04:31 AM


Originally Posted by METO Guido (Post 3931241)
Then a traffic stop or fender bender shouldn’t concern you cruising home from Pancho’s. Not to say there aren’t other routes to a hims eval. Domestic abuse complaint, slugfest with a neighbor, urinating in public, ER treatment as result of injuries/illness for dubious reasons. Disclosing symptomatic depression on form 8500-8.

DUI defense firms typically have little objection representing clients with adequate ability to pay. Get a ride.

It’s actually really simple. Don’t drink and drive. If you are addicted to alcohol you might not be able to not drink. Then you need HIMS.

sailingfun 07-24-2025 04:59 AM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 3931193)
That's the fairly rare exception, not the rule. Qualified immunity tends to be the default and you have to prove otherwise.

All governments pretty much have qualified immunity in some form... the degree of that, and the remedies available to the subjects varies widely.

With that said there is a growing movement to limit qualified immunity in the US, since it is generous enough to encourage a lot of abuse.

  • Right to Compensation: If you are detained on suspicion of a crime and later acquitted, the charges are dropped, or the preliminary investigation is closed, you may be entitled to compensation. This applies even if you were detained for a short period (e.g., 24 hours) and the arrest warrant is subsequently revoked, according to the International Bar Association.
  • Types of Damages: You can claim compensation for various damages resulting from the false arrest or detention, including physical harm, psychological distress, damage to reputation, and economic loss (such as lost wages).
  • How to Claim: You can apply for compensation from the Swedish Crime Victim Authority (Brottsoffermyndigheten). You'll need to submit your application within a specific timeframe (generally three years from the relevant event, such as the crime being committed or the preliminary investigation being discontinued).
  • Legal Action: In addition to claiming compensation from the state, you might also be able to pursue a civil lawsuit against the state if you're not satisfied with the Prosecutor General's Office decision on your compensation claim, according to EJN.
Important Note: The specifics of each case can vary, and it's essential to seek legal advice from a qualified Swedish attorney specializing in false arrest and unlawful detention cases to understand your rights and the best course of action.

METO Guido 07-24-2025 05:58 AM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 3931273)
It’s actually really simple. Don’t drink and drive. If you are addicted to alcohol you might not be able to not drink. Then you need HIMS.

Don’t drink & drive. Don’t report hung over. Amen. Hims? Simply out of the question.
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