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Old 08-04-2025 | 07:25 AM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
That’s pretty much it.
VB had a time limit attached that the company totally missed. The pulldown was a unilateral option for both sides and executed properly.

Why are you still trying to apply the butt salve. Aren't you retired living the Florida dream? Shuffleboard anyone?
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Old 08-04-2025 | 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Whoopsmybad
No, it hasn’t. It was tried but didn’t happen.
See some of the above for reasons.

Your comment was:

“But what exactly would anyone think they can put in the contract to force the company to open and staff other bases?”

Virtual Bases, while ultimately not implemented, were 100% written into the contract that was ratified.
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Old 08-04-2025 | 07:35 AM
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Originally Posted by RedBull
I bet there are concessions we could give in section 6 and 22 to argue for things that would benefit us in other areas, all while making it easier for them to open new bases. It could be a win win.
Just like the company refusing to give PS after reroutes and just like the company reinterpreting a commute policy, there will always be some concession to give because like it or not commuters are pawns. They are an easy pressure point to target to get anything in the PWA. No thank you. Why not section 1 or section 3? You already lost when you agree to play the 0 sum gain game.
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Old 08-04-2025 | 07:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Hotel Kilo
There was way more going on than that sailing. Stop cherry picking this. Many of us where here for that.
Yeah, we were. It was mostly pettiness by our union.
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Old 08-04-2025 | 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Hotel Kilo
There was way more going on than that sailing. Stop cherry picking this. Many of us where here for that.
Can you expand on this?
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Old 08-04-2025 | 08:01 AM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
Can you expand on this?
It's already been discussed. There was a lengthy thread about it on here a few years ago. Pretty sure you said the same things back then, and were excoriated for it then, as you are now.

If you must, one word summation - unilateral.
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Old 08-04-2025 | 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by MJP27
Yeah, we were. It was mostly pettiness by our union.
That's your interpretation. Not mine.
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Old 08-04-2025 | 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by notEnuf
VB had a time limit attached that the company totally missed. The pulldown was a unilateral option for both sides and executed properly.

Why are you still trying to apply the butt salve. Aren't you retired living the Florida dream? Shuffleboard anyone?
So the negotiated extension was fake?
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Old 08-04-2025 | 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by igotgummed
Your comment was:

“But what exactly would anyone think they can put in the contract to force the company to open and staff other bases?”

Virtual Bases, while ultimately not implemented, were 100% written into the contract that was ratified.
Right, but virtual bases were NOT permanent and could be shifted all around at any time. That’s NOT the same as opening a new base.
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Old 08-04-2025 | 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by RedBull
I bet there are concessions we could give in section 6 and 22 to argue for things that would benefit us in other areas, all while making it easier for them to open new bases. It could be a win win.
When you open your thought with concession, you are now part of the problem, not the solution.
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