23.M.7/Auto Accept thread drift.
08-13-2025 | 03:21 PM
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08-13-2025 | 04:32 PM
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Of course more than one thing can be true at once. Pilots who use auto-accept are playing by the rules, while management is often not. That part is simple. If you don’t like the rules, then write your reps and fill out the upcoming C26 survey to request a change. Nothing is truly “wrong” if it’s done in accordance with the PWA.
Management is frequently using 23M7 outside of 8 hours, not logging 23M7 incidents as required, along with numerous other routine PWA violations.
Management is frequently using 23M7 outside of 8 hours, not logging 23M7 incidents as required, along with numerous other routine PWA violations.
08-13-2025 | 04:40 PM
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There is a lot of gray area here, and lots of back and forth over beers. I might say that there is "nothing contractually wrong" from calling in sick all 270 sick leave hours (for old guys like me) and not calling in sick until one hour prior to report, for ALL 270 hours of sick use. But I would raise a BS flag if someone was bragging about it--legal and all.
The difference here is that using auto-accept is always PWA legal. No intent to fly is ever required, unless the pilot acknowledges a proffer.
08-13-2025 | 04:48 PM
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Sure, but my experience mirrors what crewdawg posted above. Whenever 23M7 has run rampant in my category, I’ve had little trouble finding a premium trip or two somewhere in the month — even as a mid-seniority commuter.
The company would love nothing more than to make their problem look like our problem. For us, it’s minimal short term pain for long term gain. For the company, it’s a massive, unsustainable cost and operational issue. It becomes even more unsustainable after we eventually get automated enforcement up and running. Time is on our side here.
The company would love nothing more than to make their problem look like our problem. For us, it’s minimal short term pain for long term gain. For the company, it’s a massive, unsustainable cost and operational issue. It becomes even more unsustainable after we eventually get automated enforcement up and running. Time is on our side here.
08-13-2025 | 07:14 PM
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10-01-2025 | 09:30 AM
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Recently lot of trip being getting inversely assigned to junior pilots without even going out as GS or even WS and it’s same 2 or 3 senior keep getting paid was it always like this ?? I guess CS has to do better job and being proactive rather than let the trips sit in open for hours
10-01-2025 | 09:38 AM
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Recently lot of trip being getting inversely assigned to junior pilots without even going out as GS or even WS and it’s same 2 or 3 senior keep getting paid was it always like this ?? I guess CS has to do better job and being proactive rather than let the trips sit in open for hours
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