23.M.7/Auto Accept thread drift.
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(And what does this have to do with 2025 AEs? #Threaddrift)
#12
My understanding as well, which is why I don’t get all the auto accept (if you’re not going to fly the trip anyway). Easier just to block ARCOS calls to avoid them, no??
#13
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Another thing that would be helpful to to be able to maintain a slip but turn it off/on without deleting it.
#14
I've always understood it to be the most senior with a slip in, not the most senior with auto accept on. People putting auto accept with no intention of actually working are just idiots trying to gum up the works. Happy to be wrong but I have gotten 23M7 and I only use auto accept at night and while flying.
This is why I said above that having easier options to turn on/off auto accept/ack, would be nice. These guys are just too lazy to turn it off themselves.
This is why I said above that having easier options to turn on/off auto accept/ack, would be nice. These guys are just too lazy to turn it off themselves.
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Ok, so auto accept in and of itself doesn't affect if a senior pilot is gonna get 23.M.7 pay, they just need to have the slip in. But by virtue of so many having auto accept on and gumming up the system, the company is force using IA's which then drives senior pilots collecting 23.M.7, did I get this right?
That is how I understand it. But I'd push back on the idea that auto accept is the reason the company is forced to use IA's. It may be a contributing factor, but I don't see it as a root cause. That is more a factor of how they choose to "run hot," and their crew scheduling hiring/staffing decisions. As has been talked about before, we see trips sit in open time for hours before coverage is started and even then it sometimes sits on a pilots line for up to an hour, even after they've rejected it.
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Ok, so auto accept in and of itself doesn't affect if a senior pilot is gonna get 23.M.7 pay, they just need to have the slip in. But by virtue of so many having auto accept on and gumming up the system, the company is force using IA's which then drives senior pilots collecting 23.M.7, did I get this right?
#17
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Ok, so auto accept in and of itself doesn't affect if a senior pilot is gonna get 23.M.7 pay, they just need to have the slip in. But by virtue of having [batch sizes] and gumming up the system, the company is force using IA's which then drives senior pilots collecting 23.M.7, did I get this right?
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I don’t like the batch size allowances we gave CS. With that being said I can understand why a junior pilot would use auto-accept in the evening when they don’t want to be pestered by batch call offerings they will never get. However, if you are senior and your #1 job in life is to be thorn in the side of the CPO and you are trying to grab free money. YOU! are what makes working here at Delta a real pain. If you aren’t going to be part of the solution, pound sand. If you are senior and select auto-accept you have stated that you will accept the proffer… plain and simple. The only issue is figuring out who is exactly senior. Maybe the trigger should be one individual pilot should not be given assignment pay for 23M.7 violations more than once per month.
Everybody’s flown with these self-serving types. It isn’t fun. Victim mentality with a dose of retribution for big bad Delta. Makes you wonder why they want to work here. Oh yeah, to get free money and game the system.
Everybody’s flown with these self-serving types. It isn’t fun. Victim mentality with a dose of retribution for big bad Delta. Makes you wonder why they want to work here. Oh yeah, to get free money and game the system.
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I don’t like the batch size allowances we gave CS. With that being said I can understand why a junior pilot would use auto-accept in the evening when they don’t want to be pestered by batch call offerings they will never get. However, if you are senior and your #1 job in life is to be thorn in the side of the CPO and you are trying to grab free money. YOU! are what makes working here at Delta a real pain. If you aren’t going to be part of the solution, pound sand. If you are senior and select auto-accept you have stated that you will accept the proffer… plain and simple. The only issue is figuring out who is exactly senior. Maybe the trigger should be one individual pilot should not be given assignment pay for 23M.7 violations more than once per month.
Everybody’s flown with these self-serving types. It isn’t fun. Victim mentality with a dose of retribution for big bad Delta. Makes you wonder why they want to work here. Oh yeah, to get free money and game the system.
Everybody’s flown with these self-serving types. It isn’t fun. Victim mentality with a dose of retribution for big bad Delta. Makes you wonder why they want to work here. Oh yeah, to get free money and game the system.
Let's keep that straight here.
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It’s what we do with the problem that is being questioned. Hopefully ALPA can work something out that’s beneficial for our pilots. I’m not a fan of how the company has handled it either. They are grossly violating PWA provisions.
Do you think it’s right for guys to be gumming up the system with auto-accept for reasons of getting back at the company? Wait… don’t answer that.
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