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10-20-2025 | 09:59 AM

#521

SideStickMonkey

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Originally Posted by SVCTA

Oh, they give them a good, stern talking to! And according to the ALPA podcast, some people even pretend to feel JUST TERRIBLE about it!

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Originally Posted by Khantahr

A good stern talking to is a good step for a first time offender. Not everybody knows how it works. They need to bring the hammer down on repeat offenders though, I just don't know what that hammer looks like.

We have the ability to remove them from the union.

10-20-2025 | 10:50 AM

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GutterGuard

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Originally Posted by SideStickMonkey

We have the ability to remove them from the union.

Kicked out of the union but everyone is still required to pay dues as a condition of employment, regardless of union membership.

10-20-2025 | 12:07 PM

#523

FangsF15

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Originally Posted by SideStickMonkey

We have the ability to remove them from the union.

That’s for extremely egregious actions. While there is precedent, it’s super rare. Just saying.

10-20-2025 | 12:15 PM

#524

sailingfun

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Originally Posted by GutterGuard

Kicked out of the union but everyone is still required to pay dues as a condition of employment, regardless of union membership.

Not full dues but probably 75% give or take.

10-20-2025 | 12:23 PM

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Puddytatt

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Originally Posted by FangsF15

That’s for extremely egregious actions. While there is precedent, it’s super rare. Just saying.

Knowingly and willingly screwing over every pilot in your Position/Category because you are so selfish seems like the anthesis of Unionism. Seems extremely egregious to me.

10-20-2025 | 12:40 PM

#526

Viper25

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Originally Posted by FangsF15

That’s for extremely egregious actions. While there is precedent, it’s super rare. Just saying.

This counts.

10-20-2025 | 03:22 PM

#527

Podracer

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Originally Posted by Ryler

I go to work to work. I don’t give a rip about exploring cities and going out for dinners etc. Give me a comfortable bed in a decent hotel that isn’t a 45 minute van ride that I am forced to share with yappy FAs. I can go the the gym or go outside to get my cardio. I can DoorDash dinner if the hotel restaurant stinks. Give me a late start on day 1 and an early finish on the last day with short overnights and I’m perfectly happy.

Reading this just triggered me into flashbacks and a panic fight or flight response.
This is the EXACT type of trip I did day in day out in my decade at the regionals. I never want to smell a trip like that ever again. That is the definition of the grind. I was so burnt out by the end of it I was in a horrible mood and dreaded going into every single trip. I'm not saying your wrong to like what you like but I want to advise lurkers to choose wisely. I have been there done that.

I want the easiest lowest block trips I can get as long as it doesn't significantly impact my total days off. I like more money for less work. That's my goal in life. Easy trips are good for my body and mind.

10-20-2025 | 03:46 PM

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GutterGuard

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Originally Posted by sailingfun

Not full dues but probably 75% give or take.

The CBA already requires all pilots to pay full union dues as a condition of employment, regardless of membership status.

10-20-2025 | 05:15 PM

#529

dmhpilot

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Originally Posted by Verdell

I found the discussion about raising (rather, not raising) the ALV profoundly interesting.

I am also interested as to why it may be better, on the whole for pilots, to not lower the trigger (or have a trigger at all.)

Removing or lowering the trigger removes incentive for REG pilots to WS, meaning more uncovered trips in OT and higher RES usage. It also encourages the behavior like SS of dropping everything just to grab 2x pay since it is easier to get GS with a lower trigger.