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10-10-2025 | 10:58 AM

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FangsF15

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Originally Posted by velosnow

This bit here is incorrect. They pay for themselves in terms of energy cost to build within months and return positive ROI for investment dollars. Not huge, but consistent. The last part is of course subjective. Have you ever lived near a coal plant or coal mining? I did, grew up next door to it all. Not fun.

Of course, there are variances depending on where they are (how consistent is the wind), and local electricity costs, as well as how remote/expensive it was to build. But months? Not even close. Wind farms take from 10-12 years to pay for themselves.

10-10-2025 | 11:14 AM

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And are ugly and noisy as heck.

Ugly compared to a coal plant? They're not noisy. Sitting right underneath one, my idling motorcycle (which itself isn't that loud at idle) was louder than the wind turbine.

10-10-2025 | 11:16 AM

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Ugly compared to a coal plant? They're not noisy. Sitting right underneath one, my idling motorcycle (which itself isn't that loud at idle) was louder than the wind turbine.

Coal is nasty. There's no such thing as clean coal and coal burning plants actually release more radiation into the environment than nuclear plants.

What we need is a rebirth of the nuke sector in this country. It's happening but too slowly. We will always need a constant load into our power infrastructure that only nuclear, nat gas, and coal can do. We just need to pretty much get rid of coal altogether.

Wind has been great and I just read China built a solar farm that's twice as big as Manhattan. It's all doable we just need the will to do it.

10-10-2025 | 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by SideStickMonkey

Coal is nasty. There's no such thing as clean coal and coal burning plants actually release more radiation into the environment than nuclear plants.

What we need is a rebirth of the nuke sector in this country. It's happening but too slowly. We will always need a constant load into our power infrastructure that only nuclear, nat gas, and coal can do. We just need to pretty much get rid of coal altogether.

Wind has been great and I just read China built a solar farm that's twice as big as Manhattan. It's all doable we just need the will to do it.

Also much easier for them to do since they a) are basically the world's producer of solar cells, and b) can steamroll their way into any project since the government has complete societal control there.

10-10-2025 | 12:59 PM

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Ugly compared to a coal plant? They're not noisy. Sitting right underneath one, my idling motorcycle (which itself isn't that loud at idle) was louder than the wind turbine.

Well, I said noisy, not loud.

And yes, IMO, wind farms ruin the landscape. There are better ways, and I’m not a fan. It’s JMO, and it won’t ever change.

Totally agree about Nuclear. It’s a very clean source of limitless energy. Obviously the downside is the wasted but we have good ways of dealing with that.

10-10-2025 | 01:10 PM

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Has a single train moved? Or even a single piece of rail? Are they even close?

did you actually try to find the answers to the current project status and why it is so, or are you using opinions from your media diet?

10-10-2025 | 02:43 PM

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did you actually try to find the answers to the current project status and why it is so, or are you using opinions from your media diet?

You know Google is a thing, right...

Now, try answering the question.

10-10-2025 | 02:49 PM

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Ugly compared to a coal plant? They're not noisy. Sitting right underneath one, my idling motorcycle (which itself isn't that loud at idle) was louder than the wind turbine.

I doubt that, there're codes for how close windmills can be to residential areas.

IF what you say is true, can't wait for when that gear box melts, catches fire and rains down burning carbon fiber remanants of fan blades on your house. Hope you have good insurance.

Last edited by Hotel Kilo; 10-10-2025 at 03:13 PM.