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Old 10-07-2025 | 04:40 PM
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Its fleet dependent. You're better off looking at some wide reports, finding reserve around your seniority and then looking at their schedules at the end of the month. But generally being junior I'd plan to fly enough to get into the 2nd bucket every month (2ish trips?) and very few green slips.
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Old 10-28-2025 | 02:27 AM
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Question for y'all. How long do you generally spend on property at Delta before you can hold any kind of widebody flying out of ATL? Delta pilots I've met in the wild have given me answers ranging from 15 to 20 years. What do y'all think?

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Old 10-28-2025 | 03:07 AM
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Question for y'all. How long do you generally spend on property at Delta before you can hold any kind of widebody flying out of ATL? Delta pilots I've met in the wild have given me answers ranging from 15 to 20 years. What do y'all think?

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A new hire today is looking at over 10 years before holding ATL WB FO. Assuming hired around 17500, 500ish retirements until 2032 then 350 ish a year (based on ALPA app estimates) and assuming 12,500ish to hold WB FO. My guess: 12-13 years.
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Old 10-28-2025 | 07:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Meme In Command
A new hire today is looking at over 10 years before holding ATL WB FO. Assuming hired around 17500, 500ish retirements until 2032 then 350 ish a year (based on ALPA app estimates) and assuming 12,500ish to hold WB FO. My guess: 12-13 years.
growth????
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Old 10-28-2025 | 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by SnarfSnarf
Question for y'all. How long do you generally spend on property at Delta before you can hold any kind of widebody flying out of ATL? Delta pilots I've met in the wild have given me answers ranging from 15 to 20 years. What do y'all think?

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Meme is on target above.

FYI, check out the AE Trend Analysis stickied post. It has the data to support the fact it will take 70% overall seniority to hold the bottom WB in the company. ATL is consistently more senior to the rest of the bases, so it is likely to be more senior than that. FWIW, 70% has been consistent for 10+ years, so I wouldn’t expect that to vary much in the future.

However age 67 will delay it further when/if that passes, but a large WB order will put more junior pressure on the future awards. 10 years from now, all our 767-3””’s will have been replaced by top pay-banded positions.

The question then is when could you get to about 70% overall seniority or better?
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Old 10-28-2025 | 08:30 AM
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growth????
Too uncertain for me to even remotely try to come up with an estimate. We can plan to grow X% but the economy/ Airbus and Boeing delivery schedules/ too many variables we have no control over.

The only unaccounted for variable id add to the equation is a new contract. Pay raises will likely push a number of NB captains to jump over to WB FO as they can improve QOL without taking much of a pay hit when comparing previous contract NBA to new contract WBB pay rates. So id say with that in mind, my 12-13 year estimate is very optimistic.

But then again, 787's...

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Old 10-28-2025 | 11:55 AM
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I appreciate all the info!
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Old 10-29-2025 | 06:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Owlchemist
Its fleet dependent. You're better off looking at some wide reports, finding reserve around your seniority and then looking at their schedules at the end of the month. But generally being junior I'd plan to fly enough to get into the 2nd bucket every month (2ish trips?) and very few green slips.
Depends what you mean by WB flying. If it's purely flying across an ocean 7ER can be quick a few years, but if you mean top pay bracket then it will be longer. Check out the AE thread and add a premium (longer wait) for ATL and a discount for (shorter wait) NYC.
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