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Originally Posted by ancman
(Post 3984901)
For every pilot whose name is listed repeatedly in the 23M7 logs, there are 100 other pilots trying to be him/her with the same slip configuration.
The names that you see repeatedly are the ones who happen to be the most senior of that large group, AND in the right place at the right time. They literally have no control over how many times they appear relative to everyone else. Direct your hate at the game, not the player. |
Originally Posted by CBreezy
(Post 3984906)
The game is broken. It needs fixed. The company very likely wants it fixed. The union should horse trade.
No more LOA/MOU Band-Aids between now and then. |
Originally Posted by ancman
(Post 3984907)
We’ll see if the deal reached in section 6 is acceptable or not.
No more LOA/MOU Band-Aids between now and then. |
Originally Posted by CBreezy
(Post 3984909)
You'll never know what bartering was made in section 6. I'm not saying we should immediately exchange but this is a bad argument that is setting up the entire scenario for failure
Giving away our greatest piece of leverage before section 6 would be the worst strategic blunder we could possibly make. As the costs of management’s blunder continue to grow by the day, so does our section 6 leverage. Management wants it fixed now. We shouldn’t even entertain that without a new comprehensive contract that blows the rest of the industry out of the water. |
Originally Posted by CBreezy
(Post 3984909)
You'll never know what bartering was made in section 6. I'm not saying we should immediately exchange but this is a bad argument that is setting up the entire scenario for failure
Will we have a contract sooner if the company needs it to solve trip coverage? If there isn't trip coverage pressure, can the company drag their feet in negotiations? |
Originally Posted by ancman
(Post 3984910)
Most pilots are wise enough to evaluate the deal in its entirety.
Giving away our greatest piece of leverage before section 6 would be the worst strategic blunder we could possibly make. As the costs of management’s blunder continue to grow by the day, so does our section 6 leverage. Management wants it fixed now. We shouldn’t even entertain that without a new comprehensive contract that blows the rest of the industry out of the water. NEWS FLASH: CS does now GAF who is getting paid what as long as the metal is moving. The company would love to get the coverage ladder retooled to be more efficient, but there’s a ton of pilots who are completely missing out and getting screwed that want it more. |
Originally Posted by Whoopsmybad
(Post 3984917)
Look, with pilots tripping over themselves and playing wait on hold games in the hopes of getting an IA, I don’t think we have remotely close to the leverage you think we have. The planes are flying, someone is getting paid.
NEWS FLASH: CS does now GAF who is getting paid what as long as the metal is moving. The company would love to get the coverage ladder retooled to be more efficient, but there’s a ton of pilots who are completely missing out and getting screwed that want it more. |
Originally Posted by Gunfighter
(Post 3984915)
It's not about the exact quid, it's about the pressure to get a full contract completed in a timely manner.
Will we have a contract sooner if the company needs it to solve trip coverage? If there isn't trip coverage pressure, can the company drag their feet in negotiations? |
Originally Posted by Whoopsmybad
(Post 3984917)
Look, with pilots tripping over themselves and playing wait on hold games in the hopes of getting an IA, I don’t think we have remotely close to the leverage you think we have. The planes are flying, someone is getting paid.
NEWS FLASH: CS does now GAF who is getting paid what as long as the metal is moving. The company would love to get the coverage ladder retooled to be more efficient, but there’s a ton of pilots who are completely missing out and getting screwed that want it more. The leverage present is massive. Of course the underpaid, overworked crew scheduler doesn’t care. Executive management 100% does. |
Originally Posted by ancman
(Post 3984907)
We’ll see if the deal reached in section 6 is acceptable or not.
No more LOA/MOU Band-Aids between now and then. |
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