at least now we have crew resources incentivizing trip coverage with extra pay over the holidays that isn’t in the contract…

Whats the leverage again?
If you don’t give us a contract, we will continue to scam superseniority-assign all trips to the top 0.1% of category OOB fleet and allow all greenslips IAs to be misassigned to the bottom deal makers? At the expense of the middle 80% of the pilot group? And for those in the middle, just deal with the pay hit? We’re also for keeping auto accept so we don’t get called for middle of the night GS wakeups, because middle of the night IA phone calls (that are already covered by deal makers) aren’t as fatiguing?

Let’s do this for the next 2-5 years? At least throw a “trust me bro” in there somewhere.

3X and potentially 4X for trip coverage close in. Yes, your premium cheese has moved, go find it. It's still out there and the wheel-o-cheese is rolling down hill and getting bigger by the day.

If you are talking about the "above 6" SC paying 3:00 or 2:00 if not used, that 100% is in the contract.

Now, if you are talking about the fact they are ONLY offering it during the holidays, as if its a discretionary thing they can turn on/off at their whim, then I'm in complete agreement with you.

every day is a school day. thanks

So you are ok with this continuing. We may not see a new contract for years. People are being harmed financially. Pilots who are in their last couple of years will never be able to recoup the pay they are losing. We need to fix this now, not in a couple of years.

just spent a few mins looking, any chance you have a reference for the ability for cs to flex up the sc pay? i could only find 4.H.3 which specifies one hour

again, 25-05 does NOTHING to save a cost problem.

And absolutely nuking, with a 50 kiloton hydrogen bomb, certainly the spirit, and probably the letter, of what organized labor is all about. I can't believe you are saying, "hey go play the IA game--it is great!"

By the way, contrary to someone's misread of an earlier post of mine, this whole mess hardly affects me. A330A, getting on in years, I just flew my first GS of the year (I average one a year) and am pretty well paid for flying a normal schedule. I've flown one IA ever, and that was about five years ago.

MY flying life is good, but I am both in a category and career stage where all this stuff doesn't relate much. However I am a big proponent of the letter and spirit of organized labor and our PWA. I don't like seeing guys who are volunteering to help the company out, anticipating premium pay as the quid pro quo, and not getting it--like they used to--for all sorts of not-great reasons.

Obviously we have some leverage (the amount is debatable) and I am not saying we should just give things away for free. However, there are those who reasonably believe that the entire Auto Accept leading to mass IAs is itself an anti-spirit-of-the-PWA concession of sorts.

I'd like to see all this resolved so that pilots aren't bitter between themselves.

They obviously don’t care, or they would staff CS, and figure out how to run the coverage ladder correctly. Instead we are still printing money, paying dividends, and buying back stocks.