I feel like he explained himself pretty well.

You don’t like his phrasing.

He's not calling the senior M7 pilots scammers per se, he's saying the system as set up scams many pilots who were actually harmed from reaping the contractual benefits of 23m7. If anyone of us here on this forum was #1 in a category we'd be doing the exact same thing.

The company made the decision to bypass the coverage ladder and hit the IA panic button, not us. It goes much deeper than this superficial explanation. Stop hating on the senior guy(s) for using the PWA. There's leverage we can use later on. it's been explained here numerous times. Unfortunately the more junior can't see the forest thru the trees. They just get wrapped up in the "muh that guy getting 67 M7 payments", "muh greenslips" etc etc).

First, pilots getting paid under our contract for 23M7 violations is not “them” scamming, they are playing the contractual game like we all do…but it needs to get fixed.

Its not really junior pilots getting harmed
most; it’s mid to higher seniority pilots who can’t credit surf or pickup GS’s like they would in the past, especially the last minute (or 8 hours these days) stuff that used to be our bread and butter. These go out to IA’s, many times to junior pilots.

The only scammers are the deal makers.

The M7 scam can be quickly leveled at no cost to the company and no loss to DALPA. No one should ever get paid multiple recoveries over the same footprint they would never have gotten beyond the first one.

The deal makers is an even easier fix. Tapes must be required for all IA’s. Pilots can record as well. If you make a deal, you get federal minimum wage for block hours flown, that’s it. The balance goes to DALPA to be paid to all pilots equally Feb 15th.

Calling a provision within the contract a scam is disingenuous. It was agreed upon by the company and the union. There's nothing dishonest about it. It's spelled out in black and white.

Repeating that term without understanding its definition just waters down your argument.

So nothing. It’s not a scam. I am jealous too.

You may not like it, but it’s not a scam. It’s the contract.

As much as I’m jealous of the guy who pulled off 7 M7’s in one day, he’s not scamming anyone — including other pilots. Overlapping pay has an established precedent within our contract, for better or worse. There are several other areas where it exists.

I agree. I probably wouldn’t care if I was getting a GS per month that starts with a DH to where I live like I was before all this non-sense started.


I am personally being negatively affected by this crap while junior pilots are getting trips that I should be flying. I’m not the only one.

I want to see quick slips pay the pilot that actually flies the trip 300 percent.