Depends on what we call junior.
Ballpark 50% on my category is mid 5000's. In the first week the majority of the IA's went to guys in the 50-80% range. Only 1 or 2 went senior to 5,000, but more GS were being awarded than IAs and those went very senior, of course. A handful went VERY junior. By the end of the first week they started trending much more senior. Most IAs are still going to sub 5 digit seniority pilots. Junior in the sense that they're far from the halfway line, but far from the plug. More like "the zone of suck".

effin A, bubba!! guys kid gonna love the gi joe with the double kung fu grip for xmas.
as an aside, being senior on nba may drive wba down significantly. a win for many, especially those nyc era’s!

Put me down for a Turboman :D

Also, fully agree with that WBA prediction after seeing HK's disbelief in the salary thread that junior As are making close to 500k gross total comp.

You have explained your problem (and mine) precisely. The issue is the over use of 23M7 not people collecting for the company's choices. 23M7 is an absolutely legitimate method of assigning open time within 8 hours whether we like that or not. An additional problem is where the 23M7 payments go. If they are following the PWA any WS payments go toward the max pickup limit. After a pilot reaches that limit the next pilot gets the payment. If this is done correctly more pilots would get 23M7 payments.

For now the solution is for everyone to farm WSs. This will result in peoples schedules filling up quicker and the payments moving to the next senior. If the payments are not assigned correctly future investigation will result in a redistribution and more money will come further down the list. GS farming is a different story which is why WS farming is effective to drive payments further down the list. Everyone in my opinion should be WS farming at this point. You have a chance at getting payments in the future that were misapplied. And are more likely to get a WS payment than a GS payment which are identical in value. 1X and no flying obligation.

There is no disbelief from us on the WB side, believe me. I am suspect your numbers and your claim how you got them working only 118 days this year. And I think you had to hustle to get what you got or you were an outlier in your BES.

We've got huslters on my side too. They can clear over 800k a year without breaking a sweat. I'm not one of those guys as I don't have 4 houses, 3 boats, an airplane and 2 ex wives.

For my time off and the amount I can make by being lazy, I'll take the left seat WB all day everyday.

True but that's still not how it should be distributed. 23M7 makes a mess of the coverage by the opinion of the scheduler. IA codes are not truly IAs.

i love that you’re suspect despite several of us who didn’t exact same thing are telling you *from first hand experience* that it’s possible, and common.


you didn’t even know within a hundred bucks an hour what a nb captain makes.

literally nobody has asked you to do anything else

23.M.7 is not a legitimate way of covering trips. It’s a contractual loophole. I put it on the same level as if every single pilot used every single hour of sick leave every single year. Is it contractually compliant? Yes, but that doesn’t make it right. Now that lookback is gone, why not? It’s in the contract. See. We can exploit loopholes too. Doubt we would ever do that because we actually have integrity as a group.

Set your personal opinion and personal dignity aside. This is about nothing but contractual execution. If you FEEL you can't do something that is within the PWA rights of a pilot then that's on you. It is what it is... until it's changed. Fight fire with fire or complain from the sidelines, that's your choice.

What is the realistic timeline for implementation of QS? I remained a 717 FO (~35%) to play the last minute WS/GS game. Is this method of trip coverage the new normal (for the next 1 yr.+), or will the no sick lookback be a a big enough carrot for the company? I'm out of seat lock, but not senior enough to consistently credit-surf in this environment. Is the logical move to go right seat in a higher paying category?