Prepare Yourselves... 2026 AEs
02-11-2026 | 05:16 PM
#421
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I was referring to the 320 fleet specifically. AUA, MBJ, SJU, PUJ, etc…. All 2 day 24 hour layovers.
Im starting to wonder if the plan moving forward will be to originate NYC flights from DTW/ATL so as to avoid growing the NYC base. Starting/ending rotations in DTW that flow through NY adds THAT much more utilization to the fleet/pilots. More pilots in NYC = more people using state leave, more people you can’t send sick letters to, NEPP users, paid parking users (which I’ve heard is astronomical), etc etc…. I mean if the last 2 AEs haven’t supported that…. Idk what will? They aren’t going to pump DTW with Neos. We have too much power in that market to care about margins. And where else are we going to grow in DTW? Sounds like a shift in flying rather than growth.
I would happily be wrong!
Im starting to wonder if the plan moving forward will be to originate NYC flights from DTW/ATL so as to avoid growing the NYC base. Starting/ending rotations in DTW that flow through NY adds THAT much more utilization to the fleet/pilots. More pilots in NYC = more people using state leave, more people you can’t send sick letters to, NEPP users, paid parking users (which I’ve heard is astronomical), etc etc…. I mean if the last 2 AEs haven’t supported that…. Idk what will? They aren’t going to pump DTW with Neos. We have too much power in that market to care about margins. And where else are we going to grow in DTW? Sounds like a shift in flying rather than growth.
I would happily be wrong!
Also, NYC tends to implode spectacularly, affecting all airports. Maybe it’s risk mitigation to not have too much of your operation originating out of NYC.
Anyway you slice it, NYC is junior and fast at the bottom end but slow and stagnate at the top end.
02-11-2026 | 05:27 PM
#422
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I’m curious. Is the lack of growth an airspace/gate capacity limitation? I don’t really know honestly.
Also, NYC tends to implode spectacularly, affecting all airports. Maybe it’s risk mitigation to not have too much of your operation originating out of NYC.
Anyway you slice it, NYC is junior and fast at the bottom end but slow and stagnate at the top end.
Also, NYC tends to implode spectacularly, affecting all airports. Maybe it’s risk mitigation to not have too much of your operation originating out of NYC.
Anyway you slice it, NYC is junior and fast at the bottom end but slow and stagnate at the top end.
02-12-2026 | 03:51 AM
#423
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It's funny how Delta tried saving on NYC layover costs by increasing staffing and now they are worried about costs of having NYC based employees. 5 years from now a middle manager will get a promotion for increasing NYC staffing to reduce reliance on other bases and save on layover costs.
02-12-2026 | 05:37 AM
#425
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02-12-2026 | 05:39 AM
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ALPA does not have approval nor veto power over hotels. That would need to be negotiated in section 6. ALPA can provide input but cannot outright veto. However, ALPA can require the company to abide by the 12 hour block-to-block requirement for a downtown area hotel, and NYC is currently an exception.
02-12-2026 | 08:54 AM
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ALPA does not have approval nor veto power over hotels. That would need to be negotiated in section 6. ALPA can provide input but cannot outright veto. However, ALPA can require the company to abide by the 12 hour block-to-block requirement for a downtown area hotel, and NYC is currently an exception.
I would support increasing our control over hotels in section 6. Some of our hotels are fantastic, and others would be considered a bad hotel at a regional.
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