Go Back  Airline Pilot Central Forums > Airline Pilot Forums > Major > Delta
How to actually get an IA >

How to actually get an IA

Search

Notices

How to actually get an IA

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 01-19-2026 | 09:54 AM
  #151  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Jan 2023
Posts: 3,562
Likes: 1,089
Default

Originally Posted by tennisguru
Lots of people on here were of the belief that QS would never be implemented until during/after section 6 negotiations. I've said from the moment the MOU came out that QS will be here as quickly as the company can possibly get it done. For one they absolutely hate not having sick verification (the letters this week help prove that), and also from a practical perspective they need a more automated way to cover the trips they can't/won't run through TC. Having 300 pilots try to call in to speak to a live scheduler when they're already completely overloaded isn't working well for the company either.

So yes, QS aren't here yet but it's looking more and more likely that the naysayers were wrong.
I believed you
Reply
Old 01-19-2026 | 10:06 AM
  #152  
Line Holder
 
Joined: Feb 2020
Posts: 999
Likes: 102
Default

Originally Posted by tennisguru
Lots of people on here were of the belief that QS would never be implemented until during/after section 6 negotiations. I've said from the moment the MOU came out that QS will be here as quickly as the company can possibly get it done. For one they absolutely hate not having sick verification (the letters this week help prove that), and also from a practical perspective they need a more automated way to cover the trips they can't/won't run through TC. Having 300 pilots try to call in to speak to a live scheduler when they're already completely overloaded isn't working well for the company either.

So yes, QS aren't here yet but it's looking more and more likely that the naysayers were wrong.
I'm still skeptical.

A5S
Reply
Old 01-19-2026 | 10:28 AM
  #153  
Viper25's Avatar
Line Holder
 
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 1,495
Likes: 360
Default

Originally Posted by All 5 Stages
I'm still skeptical.

A5S
I just spoke to my rep, it’s coming and the company really really wants it to happen ASAP. Call yours too if you don’t believe me.
Reply
Old 01-19-2026 | 10:47 AM
  #154  
Line Holder
25M+ Airline Miles
20 Countries Visited
 
Joined: Jul 2023
Posts: 945
Likes: 335
Default

Originally Posted by notEnuf
YES, if the company is knowingly giving GSs when other pilots should be getting them you should not accept or seek a GS, but that is not happening.

This speaks to self discipline and integrity. The company efficiently and correctly proffers and awards GSs in accordance with the PWA. IAs are the new GS. We have to hold them accountable for the process. We know the deal makers are doing this to get multiple IAs. If a person accepts a second IA it is their decision to circumvent the process. This doesn't happen with GSs and there is a reason why. If it were to happen with GS or SLV or WS there would be the same, and more widespread outrage. The company is not in compliance with 23M7 or IAs and we need to demand compliance both of the company and ourselves.
Ok, I agree with you for the most part. There is one major problem though, and I've already mentioned it. There is no way for a pilot to verify any of this when they get a call, whether it's for a GS or an IA. So what do you suggest we do?
Reply
Old 01-19-2026 | 11:11 AM
  #155  
notEnuf's Avatar
Racketeer
 
Joined: Mar 2015
Posts: 13,409
Likes: 882
From: N60.4858 W149.9327
Default

Originally Posted by Puddytatt
I'm the MOU 25-05 thread, you said this:





So which one is it? Not an IA, or an IA that has to follow the rules in 23R? It can't be not an IA that has to follow the IA rules.
I'll clarify since you are correct in pointing out what seems like an apparent difference. 23M7 is part of our PWA and provides guidelines for the company to "deviate from the sequences under Section 23 N. or O." They sequence is all that is allowed to be changed. So they move to a step of coverage that requires inverse assignment and continue to run coverage from the new step. That doesn't allow them to make up steps or not comply with the requirements of the step. IA or A#x is how this is accounted for in coverage and pay. When I say it's not a real IA what is meant is that it didn't follow the sequence and end up at that step in the normal order of coverage. The fact that we don't have a way to differentiate the separate paths to arrive at the IA steps is the source of confusion. In either situation you are only forced/entitled to 1 IA until you are the only available pilot exactly like the GS steps of coverage. They are IAs for pay and coverage and all other PWA applicable situations, however the step was reached as a result of 23M7.
Reply
Old 01-19-2026 | 11:13 AM
  #156  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Apr 2018
Posts: 4,187
Likes: 670
Default

Originally Posted by Viper25
I just spoke to my rep, it’s coming and the company really really wants it to happen ASAP. Call yours too if you don’t believe me.
I think this was asked before, but are there PB days associated with QS on reserve? Or is this another PB day killer?
Reply
Old 01-19-2026 | 11:20 AM
  #157  
notEnuf's Avatar
Racketeer
 
Joined: Mar 2015
Posts: 13,409
Likes: 882
From: N60.4858 W149.9327
Default

Originally Posted by tennisguru
Lots of people on here were of the belief that QS would never be implemented until during/after section 6 negotiations. I've said from the moment the MOU came out that QS will be here as quickly as the company can possibly get it done. For one they absolutely hate not having sick verification (the letters this week help prove that), and also from a practical perspective they need a more automated way to cover the trips they can't/won't run through TC. Having 300 pilots try to call in to speak to a live scheduler when they're already completely overloaded isn't working well for the company either.

So yes, QS aren't here yet but it's looking more and more likely that the naysayers were wrong.
It's not here yet and until it is. IT ISN'T. The majority wants it is what is being posted. That's an excellent reason for management to delay it. If/when it's a thing you are welcome to take a victory lap. Now is too soon. The letters just mean they will threaten in new ways like "official investigations" etc. and that QS is not imminent. In fact, threatening letters while they delay will have a chilling effect on sick calls so win/win for them.
Reply
Old 01-19-2026 | 11:21 AM
  #158  
Moderator
 
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 7,537
Likes: 544
Default

Originally Posted by m3113n1a1
I think this was asked before, but are there PB days associated with QS on reserve? Or is this another PB day killer?

You still get PB days just like a GS/IA.
Reply
Old 01-19-2026 | 11:26 AM
  #159  
notEnuf's Avatar
Racketeer
 
Joined: Mar 2015
Posts: 13,409
Likes: 882
From: N60.4858 W149.9327
Default

Originally Posted by Khantahr
Ok, I agree with you for the most part. There is one major problem though, and I've already mentioned it. There is no way for a pilot to verify any of this when they get a call, whether it's for a GS or an IA. So what do you suggest we do?
Me personally... I would trust the vetted GS process and take any that are proffered to me. In the case of IAs I wouldn't be comfortable taking more than one.
Reply
Old 01-19-2026 | 11:55 AM
  #160  
Line Holder
 
Joined: Oct 2024
Posts: 306
Likes: 152
Default

Originally Posted by notEnuf
Me personally... I would trust the vetted GS process and take any that are proffered to me. In the case of IAs I wouldn't be comfortable taking more than one.
Oh please. You’re really going to be sitting on IA#1 and the phone rings for another one, and you don’t call back, but just sit back and think to yourself “I’ve had my one for the month, it’s time for other people to have a chance”. Really??

Do you also see a trip pop up during your SC window that you know they can’t get through the coverage quick enough to get to you, but you go ahead and call CS and tell them, “Give that to me, it’s my turn!”
Reply

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



Your Privacy Choices