How to actually get an IA
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I’ve been here way longer than you. I know the pwa way better than you.
My theory is pilots are calling scheduling and just asking if trip is in IA yet thus jumping the call. Waiting for the call is too late. I’m sure some pilots are getting crappy trips that no one wants but I’m convinced this is what is going on. It’s probably even worse than this for some pilots, but I try to give our group the benefit of the doubt.
My theory is pilots are calling scheduling and just asking if trip is in IA yet thus jumping the call. Waiting for the call is too late. I’m sure some pilots are getting crappy trips that no one wants but I’m convinced this is what is going on. It’s probably even worse than this for some pilots, but I try to give our group the benefit of the doubt.
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I always scratch my head at this type of dismissive response. The main purpose of APC is to share information.
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telling someone to read section 23 about IA’s when they are complaining about not getting called for any, is dismissive? Yet, he’s trying to tote he knows the PWA better because they’ve been here WAY longer? I think the last example is more dismissive. Especially when they’re saying they’re going to go make side deals, which ALPA is against and every pilot should be. I don’t show empathy for greedy [mod edit] behavior
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I don’t appreciate you inferring I am engaging in scab like behavior given the fact that I have never made any deals. It 100 percent is happening and I’m beginning to think that over 90 percent of the IA’s in my caregory are side deals. I think there’s so many pilots involved that it’s unfixable.
I also believe with this first come, first serve approach, pilots aren’t willing to take a $10k per month hit if they can help it.
May you be junior for decades…,,[mod edit].
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You don't understand the contract if you think the counter matters on a 23m7 award or if you think it's an IA
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telling someone to read section 23 about IA’s when they are complaining about not getting called for any, is dismissive? Yet, he’s trying to tote he knows the PWA better because they’ve been here WAY longer? I think the last example is more dismissive. Especially when they’re saying they’re going to go make side deals, which ALPA is against and every pilot should be. I don’t show empathy for greedy [mod edit] behavior
If you have so much knowledge, why don’t you share it. Or send a PM?
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Not so sure about the start at the bottom thing. I finally got an IA call the other day, but it had already been awarded to someone senior to me, five minutes BEFORE I received the call. Frankly, I see why guys are calling and making deals. I don't agree with it, but it's not shocking with the current system the way it is.
#30
if they read the PWA about this, you wouldn’t have to explain it. Some people are lazy and don’t want to adapt / learn the contract. People still think you literally have to fly on the holiday to get holiday pay on a rotation. They don’t bother to look stuff up and just go off of what some other pilot told them. I’m sure people are also going to complain about not getting a premium rotation, meanwhile they didn’t go through the bid packet to even notice there were premium rotations in the bid packet for Feb.


