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Originally Posted by CBreezy (Post 4005565)

I have used it primarily for AE based info. It's a quick and easy way to visualize and compare where I'll be on BES after each AE and mock. I suppose I COULD go in and do the math myself but for the cost of a small brewed gas station coffee a month, he does it for me. It's literally a rounding error in money for me.

I thought JFB does that for free and usually fairly fast after results are published.

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Originally Posted by FL370esq (Post 4005573)

I thought JFB does that for free and usually fairly fast after results are published.

Sometimes it can be a pain to get in an interact with his products on non computer devices. He puts out a lot of great resources. With widget I can take a give quick glance in 30s. I'm not saying don't use his. They are great. I just find the WS website more convenient and paying $2 a month to be negligible

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Originally Posted by Frank Grimes (Post 4005485)

What ALPA site?

Just take the category list, find where you sit in a category and divide it by the number in the category. Why do you need someone else to do that for you?

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Originally Posted by FL370esq (Post 4005573)

I thought JFB does that for free and usually fairly fast after results are published.

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Originally Posted by m3113n1a1 (Post 4005564)

What does it do that the ALPA app and a little clicking around on delta net can't do? I'm trying to understand what people are paying for.

<sigh>. Some of you would do well to take advantage of the 48 hour free trial and poke around WS. What JFB bell does is ok, but limited and different, and not nearly as wide or deep as WS. Seriously.

Some of the difference is in the presentation. Easy to digest color-coded columns. Graphs. Percents. Juxtaposition of different data on one graph it will generate just for you. Pay comparisons, between any 2 categories, at any 2 credit hours. Pay tables going back before the current contract. At-a-glance for where you would sit at your seniority in any category in the company, how many are above you, or at any other seniority number. (Like, where would I sit if I were seniority number 999? Or 8215? Or…) Category comparisons by both seniority number and %. Retirements, both historical and going forward. Graphs of history, going back a LONG way, showing a 2% & 3% growth line, both overall and by category. Future prediction based on various growth levels. AE data out the ying yang, with TONS of analysis. And on, and on, and on.

You can lead a horse to water, but you can’t make him drink. At least have visited the site before bashing it

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Originally Posted by DWC CAP10 USAF (Post 4005232)

The tags say "Fly Delta Jets"....to be best of my google-fu, a trademark applications for that phrase was filed, but abandoned back in 2016.

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Originally Posted by Wolf424 (Post 4005290)

I think the issue was the aircraft silhouettes had a widget on the tail

this was my understanding of the issue. He used the DL logo without permission.

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Originally Posted by Hotel Kilo (Post 4005325)

Did we not have a pilot disciplined for posting on SM a small piece of the seniority list? Granted Curly doesn't post that information, but he does have access to it.

The access issue is no different than what other 3rd parties were doing for ICrew Max, EasyBid and EasySwap. It's access. Nothing more.

I don't think Curly should have a special carve out to provide him with our information to produce his product.

I am not sure if things have changed, but not too long ago, you could create an account as a NH and get access which included the seniority list. So, as a non-DL employee -or even an applicant- I was able to access your list very easily.