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Old 03-05-2026 | 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by CrazyEight
I look forward to him jerking gear for me on a 350 trip. Much to discuss!
Dont worry. He won’t go to the line. As I understand it once you are a VP, if you go back to the line you lose the VP retirement package.

Thats why that twit PB landed at Wheels Up.
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Old 03-05-2026 | 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by ancman
He hasn’t held any of those positions though. His current position was previously occupied by JL, who was never on the list.

It was all about him stroking his ego by pretending to be a 757 captain several years ago (with an LCP in the right seat at all times). I doubt he’s flown in years.
Well, there is more to that story though. JL became the VP of Flt Ops literally a month before Covid for one reason, and one reason only. He was the same pay scale/step as Jim G, who was unceremoniously fired in the wake of the fallout from the KP lawsuit. JG and JL literally swapped jobs (“Safety” being the other job). Why? Because the fecal matter was about to hit the rotary oscillator via the Judge, and JG was going to look realllly bad. And since no one was getting ‘promoted’, it didn’t require Board approval to get JG out of the way, so when it hit the press he wasn’t in the job.

Then, someone pointed out the FAA certificate requires the VP of Flt OPs be an ATP rated pilot on the SL. Uh oh! So, to fix that, Suddenly Pat B was named a made-up position as “system chief pilot”, and the FAA POI signed off on that as a ‘fix’.

Covid hit a month later, and JL was neck deep in it. Almost felt sorry for him, he seemed so unprepared from a pilot standpoint. (Though he does have a PPL with a 777 type, no joke).

The SVP doesn’t necessarily have to promote from within, but they must be an ATP.
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Old 03-05-2026 | 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Rinaldi
Dont worry. He won’t go to the line. As I understand it once you are a VP, if you go back to the line you lose the VP retirement package.

Thats why that twit PB landed at Wheels Up.
Makes me wonder what that retirement package is.
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Old 03-05-2026 | 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by ancman
He hasn’t held any of those positions though. His current position was previously occupied by JL, who was never on the list.

It was all about him stroking his ego by pretending to be a 757 captain several years ago (with an LCP in the right seat at all times). I doubt he’s flown in years.
I heard he flew into P-56A…
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Old 03-06-2026 | 04:20 AM
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Originally Posted by dmhpilot
I heard he flew into P-56A…
2x apparently
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Old 03-06-2026 | 07:14 AM
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PC is the heir apparent. Cut in the same mold as RA. Amazing that ES was made CFO with absolutely NO markets experience, but CFO at DL is largely a ceremonial role with EB as CEO FWIW.
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Old 03-06-2026 | 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted by JayRalstonSmith
PC is the heir apparent. Cut in the same mold as RA. Amazing that ES was made CFO with absolutely NO markets experience, but CFO at DL is largely a ceremonial role with EB as CEO FWIW.
who is NO??!!
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Old 03-06-2026 | 07:31 AM
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who is NO??!!
Honestly these abbreviations are ridiculous. These are all officers at a publicly-traded corporation. It's not the CIA.
Old 03-06-2026 | 07:34 AM
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Originally Posted by GogglesPisano
Honestly these abbreviations are ridiculous. These are all officers at a publicly-traded corporation. It's not the CIA.
maybe I whiffed my attempt at humor
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Old 03-06-2026 | 07:36 AM
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Originally Posted by tripled
maybe I whiffed my attempt at humor
No whiff. l had to read it a second time. lol.


But still .....
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