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Old 03-31-2026 | 04:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Herkflyr
What are "OCC things?" I cannot think of a single reason why any entity at DAL would send pics like this to a crewmember. This seems to be approaching "get a lawyer involved" territory...but maybe I don't know what I am talking about.
Absolutely they did. Me and the other FO saw the pics ourselves. You can believe or not, but it's a solid fact they did and if you don't think they can't you'd be wrong.

You're recorded on cameras everywhere once you enter the airport. From the entrance thru security thru the terminals and jetbridges (most) to the ramps and airport taxiways and runways. That footage can be retrieved rather easily and is/has been used in the past in investigations. It's the world you enter once you come on to an airport property.
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Old 03-31-2026 | 04:56 AM
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I’ve never felt unsafe on Virginia Ave. I’ve also never had a car there. Have we ever had a pilot get robbed or mugged walking from training center?

I do agree that the company should provide a safe parking lot for the vehicles of pilots that want to bring their cars.
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Old 03-31-2026 | 04:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Verdell
Never have I ever, or known anybody that has ever, received a company text on my/their phone. Other than the blasted FLOPS FYI texts.

The situation you described is bizarre, and would very much surprise me.
Never say never. They can and they have used camera footage in the past for investigations and other such things. I replied to Herk (post#71), you can go read that.
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Old 03-31-2026 | 04:58 AM
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Originally Posted by ancman
Wrong on both the hotel where it happened and the hotel that we moved to as a result. But nice try.
Actually…he is correct that it did happen at the Holliday Inn. It’s just not the only time it’s happened.
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Old 03-31-2026 | 05:03 AM
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Originally Posted by waldo135
Actually…he is correct that it did happen at the Holliday Inn. It’s just not the only time it’s happened.
The incident that led to all of the hotel changes occurred at the Crowne Plaza.
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Old 03-31-2026 | 05:10 AM
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Originally Posted by ancman
The incident that led to all of the hotel changes occurred at the Crowne Plaza.
Incorrect. We've had at least 3 over the years. One was definitely at the Holiday Inn North several years ago. The other at the Crowne, as you mention (believe crewdawg originally posted on here that a few years back). Also the Holiday Inn North would get robbed. We had some 88 guys there doing initial and CQ, a few of the crews were in the lobby restaurant. Dudes walked in and conducted an armed robbery right there. The front desk was not far (maybe 10 paces) from the lobby restaurant. We had several serious incidents over the years occur with our people at the Holiday Inn North, not just one, that's why we moved out of it.
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Old 03-31-2026 | 05:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Hotel Kilo
Incorrect. We've had at least 3 over the years. One was definitely at the Holiday Inn North several years ago. The other at the Crowne, as you mention (believe crewdawg originally posted on here that a few years back). Also the Holiday Inn North would get robbed. We had some 88 guys there doing initial and CQ, a few of the crews were in the lobby restaurant. Dudes walked in and conducted an armed robbery right there. The front desk was not far (maybe 10 paces) from the lobby restaurant. We had several serious incidents over the years occur with our people at the Holiday Inn North, not just one, that's why we moved out of it.
I never said that the Holiday Inn hasn’t had any criminal incidents. Those all happened well before the “last straw”, which was a bullet entering a pilot’s room at the Crowne Plaza. That incident is what it finally took for the company to terminate the Crowne Plaza / HI contracts, then make us safer by moving us a half mile down the road.

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Old 03-31-2026 | 05:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Hotel Kilo
Absolutely they did. Me and the other FO saw the pics ourselves. You can believe or not, but it's a solid fact they did and if you don't think they can't you'd be wrong.

You're recorded on cameras everywhere once you enter the airport. From the entrance thru security thru the terminals and jetbridges (most) to the ramps and airport taxiways and runways. That footage can be retrieved rather easily and is/has been used in the past in investigations. It's the world you enter once you come on to an airport property.
Nobody is disputing that the company has access to surveillance cameras.

People are saying that there’s absolutely no valid reason for anyone in the OCC to be texting photos from those feeds to a pilot. It was likely his friend in the OCC screwing around, which opens the question of why they were taking / sending photos of proprietary data.
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Old 03-31-2026 | 05:54 AM
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Originally Posted by ancman
Nobody is disputing that the company has access to surveillance cameras.

People are saying that there’s absolutely no valid reason for anyone in the OCC to be texting photos from those feeds to a pilot. It was likely his friend in the OCC screwing around, which opens the question of why they were taking / sending photos of proprietary data.
IDK the reason. I never asked. Maybe someone there (dispatcher, duty, whomever) thought it was something, again IDK. However, they in fact very much did this. It wasn't his friend doing it either.
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Old 03-31-2026 | 05:56 AM
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Originally Posted by ancman
I never said that the Holiday Inn hasn’t had any criminal incidents. Those all happened well before the “last straw”, which was a bullet entering a pilot’s room at the Crowne Plaza. That incident is what it finally took for the company to terminate the Crowne Plaza / HI contracts, then make us safer by moving us a half mile down the road.
Believe we terminated the Holiday Inn North before we terminated the Crowne. In fact I think the fleets that used to stay primarily at Holiday Inn North were subsequently moved to the Crowne, and then more bullets flying thru rooms happened there thus resulting in the total termination of Crowne and the genesis of the Sonesta.
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