Openers today?
Today | 07:50 AM
#491
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From: Looking left
if only they started coverage earlier. It’s almost like the 0200 phone calls are on purpose. Also, has anyone noticed that trips are getting shopped around to different bases, ie a dtwnb 0xxx will have a 1leg day1 which later becomes an atl 0xxx rot with a dh to the dtw 1leg day1. Foul: once they pick the domicile for the 0xxx rotation they should have to keep it there- quit fishing the different bases for the sucker who will fly your short notice trip as a ws, only to send it out as qs at 0200.
its time to put out the gumpster fire.
its time to put out the gumpster fire.
Different bases....you mean the PWA allowed "Y" trips for OOB Reserve use only?
Today | 07:54 AM
#492
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From: Enoch Powell Enthusiast
Agreed. But the company will keep doing it because pilots accept them on a regular basis.
If the airline called a pilot on a working trip in the hotel at 2 am with a reroute reporting in 3 hours that would include 3 working legs, every pilot would laugh and hang up.
But if it's at home and more money is involved, somehow, magically, there is no fatigue.
Not pointing fingers here.
What's illegal on the road is somehow AOK with pilots when they're at home.
Today | 08:35 AM
#493
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Agreed. But the company will keep doing it because pilots accept them on a regular basis.
If the airline called a pilot on a working trip in the hotel at 2 am with a reroute reporting in 3 hours that would include 3 working legs, every pilot would laugh and hang up.
But if it's at home and more money is involved, somehow, magically, there is no fatigue.
Not pointing fingers here.
What's illegal on the road is somehow AOK with pilots when they're at home.
If the airline called a pilot on a working trip in the hotel at 2 am with a reroute reporting in 3 hours that would include 3 working legs, every pilot would laugh and hang up.
But if it's at home and more money is involved, somehow, magically, there is no fatigue.
Not pointing fingers here.
What's illegal on the road is somehow AOK with pilots when they're at home.
But you have a point.
Today | 08:44 AM
#494
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This is spot on. With ALPA‘s origination beginning with Safety, I honestly am shocked that they haven’t pushed this most important aspect of all. If we have a hull loss tied to fatigue, you better believe all the ARCOS notification data will be discoverable and very relevant.
Today | 08:49 AM
#495
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Today | 08:57 AM
#496
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Joined: Nov 2017
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From: NYC 7ERA
Within 8 they can go to QS and cover it hours out. They choose not to. They broke trip coverage. Not up to us to fix it.
Today | 09:01 AM
#497
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Joined: Apr 2008
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From: 320A
From a previous airline I use to work for... Safety first, profits firster. They dont actually care about safety, they just care if they get their management bonus.
Today | 09:02 AM
#498
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This is spot on. With ALPA‘s origination beginning with Safety, I honestly am shocked that they haven’t pushed this most important aspect of all. If we have a hull loss tied to fatigue, you better believe all the ARCOS notification data will be discoverable and very relevant.
Today | 09:07 AM
#499
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That’s a valid point, but because someone volunteered is not going to be a good enough answer to stay out of hot water. I’m not a Debbie Downer, but we need to be more careful for the sake of safety and protection for ourselves.
Today | 09:11 AM
#500
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From: 320A
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