Delta Flight Cancellations
05-20-2026 | 11:14 AM
#392
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From what I've seen, trips are in open time for a few days, then they'll send a trip or two out on Arcos to GS. It gets bogged down by IBWS/OOBWS farmers, then gets sent out as QS. This effectively takes out any commuter (of which DAL is over 50%).
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05-20-2026 | 11:47 AM
#393
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Need PS, no backup required for GS/QS!
05-20-2026 | 12:04 PM
#394
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garbage bid pack trip construction + coverage inefficiencies + PB pull + pre-posted rest = chaos
(or you are all a bunch of racketeers....or...whatever...)
05-20-2026 | 12:27 PM
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Where you commute from is a choice.../s
05-20-2026 | 12:58 PM
#396
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There's a lot of guys that say "you can't see if they ran trip coverage, it's probably bogged down in out of base white slip blah blah." Well there have been plenty of trips this week that'll sit in open time all day long before you get the call for in base white slip.
So yes, they're definitely sitting on trips (not on purpose, they're just way understaffed). I find it's usually for trips a day out, which, ok not an immediate concern, but they wait so long that it does become an immediate concern because it's midnight before it finally makes it past in base white slip. (And that's not because in base white slip took 12 hours to run either).
So yes, they're definitely sitting on trips (not on purpose, they're just way understaffed). I find it's usually for trips a day out, which, ok not an immediate concern, but they wait so long that it does become an immediate concern because it's midnight before it finally makes it past in base white slip. (And that's not because in base white slip took 12 hours to run either).
05-20-2026 | 01:52 PM
#397
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Edit: I can remember in 2021/22 green slips would go out on a Tuesday at 1200 Mecca time for trips beginning on a Thursday or Friday. If CS adopted this tactic, their farming costs would drop precipitously.
05-20-2026 | 01:59 PM
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This is exactly what they are doing. If you want to drop a trip - sorry reserves available is negative . However if they need a Pilot on pre-posted rest to fly, the rest magically goes away. The "rest" is not real - it is purely a mechanism to lower the reserves available lower than the actual number available. Purely manipulation to prevent line holders from dropping trips and preventing reserves form adjusting their schedule.
Think of it like this: Pretend Joe is a reserve Pilot with preposted rest. If you want to drop a trip you cant because Joe being on rest puts the reserves available number negative but Joe is actually available the whole time.
It has zero affect on the number of reserves actually available it just lowers the ICrew "reserves available" number which restricts Pilots from using many PCS functions.
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Think of it like this: Pretend Joe is a reserve Pilot with preposted rest. If you want to drop a trip you cant because Joe being on rest puts the reserves available number negative but Joe is actually available the whole time.
It has zero affect on the number of reserves actually available it just lowers the ICrew "reserves available" number which restricts Pilots from using many PCS functions.
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I'd also add that it is hosing senior pilots on reserve who are getting stuck with trips while junior goes unused due to junior's rest. That systemic action alone is a violation of the contract.
05-20-2026 | 02:16 PM
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2 things can be true at the same time. You can watch on Arcos on some trips as it ticks down through all of the "1" pilots one at a time. They (CS) also sit on trips that ought to be sent out way earlier, like days earlier. So, yeah, they are shooting themselves in the foot.
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Edit: I can remember in 2021/22 green slips would go out on a Tuesday at 1200 Mecca time for trips beginning on a Thursday or Friday. If CS adopted this tactic, their farming costs would drop precipitously.
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Edit: I can remember in 2021/22 green slips would go out on a Tuesday at 1200 Mecca time for trips beginning on a Thursday or Friday. If CS adopted this tactic, their farming costs would drop precipitously.
05-20-2026 | 02:35 PM
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They are 100% sitting on trips in open time for 12+ hours before running coverage. I know how to read ARCOS and do the math backwards. When I'm #15 or something on the list it's easy enough to see when about trip coverage started. It's not taking 1+ hours per pilot to get through their window, not since the new automation from December.
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