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Old 05-20-2026 | 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Redbird611
Conflating grooming standards with “giving up control of your own body” is quite a leap and frankly a ridiculous take.
That's literally what it is. 1:1.

In fact that's also what selling your labor to a buyer is. You're selling your time and your labor, which is your body. Certain grooming standards reach beyond the workplace which is what makes them particularly intrusive.

But many pilots LIKE the grooming standards personally so they poopoo on anyone that questions them.
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Old 05-20-2026 | 03:41 PM
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Just got the latest missive on the LGA runway closure in addition to heavy fire and brimstone along the eastern seaboard. One of the cool little things that always jumps out at me is “HIGH CALL VOLUME” in those letters. Everyone has the information of the world at their fingertips and we are slaves to technology Alexander Graham Bell would recognize. I don’t know. Maybe send some of that cool Amazon inflight WiFi vapor ware money to develop data control structures not requiring two cans and a string. I’m sure I’m wrong somehow though.
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Old 05-20-2026 | 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by CBreezy
The other problem is them sitting on trips they should know will never get covered with a WS or GS. By the time they break it up, it's already too late to run it again
Yeah or when they break them up, they turn a 3 day trip into a 2 day trip (leg, layover, DH home) and 3 day trip (DH, layover, rest of trip) then sending both out as QS. I figured they had a plan for the second half like short call but no, they turned a 3 day 23M7 and QS into a 2+3 day 23M7 and QS. Baffling behavior.

I'm sure we've all seen countless examples of this.
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Old 05-21-2026 | 01:54 AM
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Anecdotal but I just dumped June w IVD’s, as did my Nieghbor. Together we put about 20 days of work in open time. I know the silver backs that lost PB days have summer vacations and will work less. Might be a rough summer…..feast away!
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Old 05-21-2026 | 03:57 AM
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Anecdotal but I just dumped June w IVD’s, as did my Nieghbor. Together we put about 20 days of work in open time. I know the silver backs that lost PB days have summer vacations and will work less. Might be a rough summer…..feast away!
the co is now fine with this. Costs them nothing. They have plenty of rsv available who are already ‘in rest’ just to cover those trips. And all you did is limit your personal scheduling flexibility for the rest of the year. Win win for them!

this pre posted rest bs is an outrage. Someone please post gumms personal June schedule and force him to make ZERO changes to it so that he can be pigeon holed into ‘rfap’ ops. Time for us to create a ‘good faith basis’ for skeds assigning faa required rest, or to allow at least an rsv to place an x day on that future day. Bs dude. Not cool.
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Old 05-21-2026 | 04:06 AM
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Originally Posted by tripled

this pre posted rest bs is an outrage. Someone please post gumms personal June schedule and force him to make ZERO changes to it so that he can be pigeon holed into ‘rfap’ ops. Time for us to create a ‘good faith basis’ for skeds assigning faa required rest, or to allow at least an rsv to place an x day on that future day. Bs dude. Not cool.
I've been reading about this but thus far it really hasn't impacted my BES too much, until now. I put a trip in for a drop prior to the 20th, looked at the reserve grid, all blue. My trip was not dropped due to reserve coverage on the 20th PCS run. So I guess they pre-posted rest for RES sometime on the 18th-19th? Thus making any drop using a PD unattainable when the 20th PCS run came along. I'm not burning IVD/APD on it. Probably figure out something else.

I agree with you and the others, this pre-posted rest is BS. It prevents us from manipulating schedules when our plans change. You know, because that does happen after we submit PBS bids.
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Old 05-21-2026 | 04:30 AM
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Originally Posted by tripled
the co is now fine with this. Costs them nothing. They have plenty of rsv available who are already ‘in rest’ just to cover those trips. And all you did is limit your personal scheduling flexibility for the rest of the year. Win win for them!

this pre posted rest bs is an outrage. Someone please post gumms personal June schedule and force him to make ZERO changes to it so that he can be pigeon holed into ‘rfap’ ops. Time for us to create a ‘good faith basis’ for skeds assigning faa required rest, or to allow at least an rsv to place an x day on that future day. Bs dude. Not cool.
Pre posted rest has been the single biggest detractor to my QOL as a perma-reserve. I knew what I was getting into when I chose to upgrade at 98% with the expectation of staying there for a long time. I had my system figured out and things were perfectly fine. Now it's like they pulled the rug out from under me and the reserve system lost all of its predictability. The biggest advantage I saw of working at an ALPA carrier compared to the ****ty 135s where I spent the first half of my career was that you worked under a mutually agreed upon contract where you knew what to expect and it could not be changed outside of negotiations. This feels like my 135 days where management would put out a memo that reinterpreted your work rules (never in your favor of course) out of the blue, and there was nothing you could do about it because you didn't have a union. The dismissive attitude this management group has towards our contract is indeed an outrage, and frankly concerning.

So now I just changed my strategy since pre-posted rest is causing them to ignore my slips and shotgun trips outside of RUO. I just let them bask in their own incompetence and try to arrange things so I get called as little as possible. The other day I had 4 days available with pre-posted rest on day 4. A garbage 4 day went to the guy above me on the list for 4 day availability because he didn't have rest. That's the only correct call they made. Then they gave a 2-day trip to a guy with 6 days available even though there were plenty of people with 2 and 3 days of availability. Then ignored my YS for a 3-day that fit within my first 3 days and sent it out as a GS, and broke up another 4 day that dropped into open time later in the day.
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Old 05-21-2026 | 05:11 AM
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Anybody seen any GSWC yet?
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Old 05-21-2026 | 05:26 AM
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The biggest FU about the preposted rest is that it seems to all be automated with zero thought behind it. As Gulf mentioned, they post the rest starting at 0600 on the last day of a reserve block regardless of whether it’s needed. 4 days on- 4 days off. No need for a 30 hr preposted rest but there it is. THE ONLY REASON THEY ARE DOING THIS IS TO MANIPULATE THE GRID. The byproduct is that it is totally screwing the entire pilot group. RSVs can’t move or drop anything AND the seniority system that has been is place for years has been totally trashed. Line holders are also impacted with the diminished ability to move and drop their trips.
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Old 05-21-2026 | 05:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Apejackson
The biggest FU about the preposted rest is that it seems to all be automated with zero thought behind it. As Gulf mentioned, they post the rest starting at 0600 on the last day of a reserve block regardless of whether it’s needed. 4 days on- 4 days off. No need for a 30 hr preposted rest but there it is. THE ONLY REASON THEY ARE DOING THIS IS TO MANIPULATE THE GRID. The byproduct is that it is totally screwing the entire pilot group. RSVs can’t move or drop anything AND the seniority system that has been is place for years has been totally trashed. Line holders are also impacted with the diminished ability to move and drop their trips.
They want to save a Dime with PB, but it’s costing them 2-4x. Then they complain about pilot “availability” or pilot “behavior” or “racketeering”, when at the end of the day, it’s their fault. They won’t be able to out hire the problem, the cat is out of the bag, it will take them years to fix the problem.
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