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05-29-2012 | 04:25 PM
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When the staffing is even more lean (it hasn't been lean for some time due to "capacity restraint....parking airplanes) you will get called 7 times and you will get flown as much as they can legally fly you. Nobody should use what is happening now as a gauge for what will happen in the future.
05-29-2012 | 04:26 PM
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Round and round we go....
The bottom line is there are more total large RJ's. That's the threat/problem which cannot be ignored regardless of semantics and shell games.
Large RJ's can do flying currently performed by Delta mainline due to their economics. But you already knew that from the hundreds of times this fact has been pointed out.
The bottom line is there are more total large RJ's. That's the threat/problem which cannot be ignored regardless of semantics and shell games.
Large RJ's can do flying currently performed by Delta mainline due to their economics. But you already knew that from the hundreds of times this fact has been pointed out.
Doesn't affect me one way or the other dude... it's your captains seat you are putting on hold. You can't see the forest for the vitriol.
05-29-2012 | 04:29 PM
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Especially when it only takes about half the 717s to put us above the magic 767 mainline fleet requirement. 70s become 76s... and then there is ZERO protection against pump and dump... none.
05-29-2012 | 04:30 PM
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OK Slowplay, Pineapple Guy or whatever management/ALPA stooge you happen to be....
I will overlook everything that tells me this will screw my career and permanently damage the plight of most Delta/Major airline pilots. Now I'm voting YES. Yay.
Screw the profession.
Screw our health and family life.
Screw any advancement for another ten years while we continue to shrink (do more with less pilots).
Screw it all all. As long as I get a few more beans. Maybe I can grow a bean stock and find riches at the top. That's a good career plan I think. It makes as much sense as you do.
I will overlook everything that tells me this will screw my career and permanently damage the plight of most Delta/Major airline pilots. Now I'm voting YES. Yay.
Screw the profession.
Screw our health and family life.
Screw any advancement for another ten years while we continue to shrink (do more with less pilots).
Screw it all all. As long as I get a few more beans. Maybe I can grow a bean stock and find riches at the top. That's a good career plan I think. It makes as much sense as you do.
05-29-2012 | 04:35 PM
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Um, the old DL limit was raised to incorporate the old NWA limit, notwithstanding the grievance settlement on the language that led to the current 255 cap. In fact, DL inherited the AS mess and the GW increase to accommodate CPZ's larger AC. It even went on to cover AC that weren't even being operated yet but were "on order".
If DL buys another airline with RJ feed, there is a 110% chance DALPA will settle for a higher limit at the very least prorated to the combined totals, unless another deal is reached to park 50's in exchange for even more 90's, which will be called the same victory this TA is being called WRT that.
It will be sold because of the "equity stake" and more small raises and maybe a few things here or there (back down to 6 sort calls?) followed by the promise to "get what we can now and "get em next time". We have got to start learning from history.
If DL buys another airline with RJ feed, there is a 110% chance DALPA will settle for a higher limit at the very least prorated to the combined totals, unless another deal is reached to park 50's in exchange for even more 90's, which will be called the same victory this TA is being called WRT that.
It will be sold because of the "equity stake" and more small raises and maybe a few things here or there (back down to 6 sort calls?) followed by the promise to "get what we can now and "get em next time". We have got to start learning from history.
Let me suggest a movie that might help all with the seemingly endless inundation of paranoia. War Games. The only move is not to play. And with that in mind, vote no, and let's watch what happens. The sad thing is that most of you that are espousing that action FOR the reasons that you are advocating them will disappear from these boards... Vote whatever way you want, but I implore you to do so based on the facts and not the preconceived notions that I am reading here.
05-29-2012 | 04:37 PM
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Great points. We have over a month until TA voting closes. The reality is that you will need to constantly repeat yourself or save posts to use as responses for that month. The "yes" and "undecided" voters have an equal right to sell their position as a "no" vote does. Just argue the points.
You make good points, but many may stop reading if you get frustrated and mad. This is a fight of attrition.
You make good points, but many may stop reading if you get frustrated and mad. This is a fight of attrition.
05-29-2012 | 04:41 PM
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You miss the point. I used a 7 year guy just to illustrate about where the captain on that airplane might be in terms of seniority. And then I showed you exactly why that airplane will never be flown by a 7 year guy. I am not doing a dissertation, but thanks for the suggestion. My bottom line point is that there is absolutely no way those 76 seat airplanes can come here and be competitive.. none.
Wait a minute... are you saying that guys would fly that for $50/hour in the left seat??? Really????
05-29-2012 | 04:47 PM
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Second, when does the company have to park 76 seaters under this TA?
05-29-2012 | 04:51 PM
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05-29-2012 | 04:54 PM
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When the staffing is even more lean (it hasn't been lean for some time due to "capacity restraint....parking airplanes) you will get called 7 times and you will get flown as much as they can legally fly you. Nobody should use what is happening now as a gauge for what will happen in the future.
I concur. We don't know what will happen down the road, but we can put protections in the PWA to limit the damage that happens to us as pilots. Too bad this TA actually does the opposite.
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