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I have not heard DALPA touting increased jobs as a result of the 717 deal. From what I can gather ALPA admits the changes in the contract will cost jobs but will hopefully be offset by early retirements. Since thay are admitting that with the “planned” early outs we will be pilot neutral I would expect them to be clearly explaining the number of growth position we can expect from the 717s as well as the MD90s and 737-900s. Since they are not this leads me to believe that the total result of aircraft deliveries and retirements will not result in any noticeable increase in pilot staffing.

vpr

Council 44 in the lounge reported that the 717 would bring 1100 jobs. Gain 250-300 from early retirements and lose 250-300 from reserve changes. Just reporting.....

DLpilot

05-31-2012 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by whitt767 (Post 1201751)

Council 44 in the lounge reported that the 717 would bring 1100 jobs. Gain 250-300 from early retirements and lose 250-300 from reserve changes. Just reporting.....

Do you believe that Delta would walk away from a good deal on these 717s without a TA? If not then the growth would come regardless. Do you fall for the idea that they would only replace 50 seat lift? I don't. I think these planes are coming either way.

casual observer

05-31-2012 08:42 AM

anybody else heard a rumor about 777's or heavy airbus acquistions

forgot to bid

05-31-2012 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by whitt767 (Post 1201751)

Council 44 in the lounge reported that the 717 would bring 1100 jobs. Gain 250-300 from early retirements and lose 250-300 from reserve changes. Just reporting.....

did they mention their plan on reducing the jumbo RJs after 2015?

We have a plan on when they'll increase given the reported 717 deliveries, just wondering what the plan is on dropping their numbers from 325 to 300 to 250 to 200 and so on?

whitt767

05-31-2012 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1201774)

Didn't hear anything about that. Have you asked your rep? If so, what did they say? If not, then do it.

whitt767

05-31-2012 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by DLpilot (Post 1201764)

Do you know the details of the 717 deal? I don't, so I can't really say either way. The company can sell every single 757, 767, and 777, the day after we sign this... we have no control on how they plan their fleet and which routes they fly them on.

Readback

05-31-2012 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by FIIGMO (Post 1201608)

Now that is a good read.........

He may have been the Council 108 Chairman during all but the last month of the RUNUP to C2K, but he was not Council 108 Chair during the final negotiations of, voting, or the duration of C2K!

A PM acknowledgement of same will do!;)

vprMatrix

05-31-2012 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by whitt767 (Post 1201751)

Council 44 in the lounge reported that the 717 would bring 1100 jobs. Gain 250-300 from early retirements and lose 250-300 from reserve changes. Just reporting.....

So the Airtran pilots are coming with the aircraft.

I kid, I kid. :D

Interesting that this is not being said elsewhere. Also, that would indicate no parking of any current airplane and staffing the 717s at 12.5 pilots per plane which is a little high.

forgot to bid

05-31-2012 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by whitt767 (Post 1201788)

Didn't hear anything about that. Have you asked your rep? If so, what did they say? If not, then do it.

I already knew the answer. It's in the contract.

forgot to bid

05-31-2012 09:53 AM

Waiting for the announcement that the completion of the JFK terminal is contingent on us passing this TA.

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