"Were you in the squadron where the crew chief was blowing the pilot?"

Priceless !!!

I'm sorry, but as Captain of this airplane I can answer the checklist pretty damn well anyway I please! And if you don't like it, I'll have the A flight attendant come up here and kick your stupid Air Force Academy asz right off the airplane, and get me a down to earth excivilian kid from Continental Express that has never been upside down in his life, but can skill fly circles around your stupid asz. Now read the damn checklist please!

255.

325.

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I would feel more comfortable if Anderson said it. Preferably in writing.
Internet chat room assurances are nice, but ....

We bought a bunch of PanAm airplanes and 700 pilots. Everyone was all ecstatic.
The next year those airplanes were gone and 700 Delta pilots were furloughed.

Obama's second term NMB
 

It's been said over and over that we have to just take what we can get now vice risk getting the NMB involved. Like many arguments used to sell a yes or no vote, the arguments used to induce fear in this respect leave out discussion of one extremely important variable.

Regarding the recent history of the NMB as briefed to ALPA:

The last nearly 12 years of airline bankruptcies, contract negotiations, and NMB involvement have been under a very labor hostile president and a first term Democrat who is not likely to risk the bad press of an airline in a cooling off period heading into a re-election campaign.

The recent history of NMB involvement with airlines of course is not rosy, but Obama's PBGC head and his actions with respect to the AMR bankruptcy demonstrate that the old saying regarding investments also applies to labor politics.

Past performance is no guarantee of future results.

Had the APA received a brief about the last decade of action (inaction) by the PBGC, that brief would have been overwhelmingly negative due to the unobstructed run on airline retirements that Bush allowed post 9-11. Yet they saw support from Obama's PBGC guy.

Yes, Linda Pachula gave a dreary powerpoint brief to our union. Of course it demonstrated some ugly historical facts and the limited time and resources of the NMB. What else could it contain? If Obama's policies to airline labor and management will be different in his second term, would she hint that all we had to do is hold out for his second term? Obama's potential second term approach to our situation is nothing that can be telegraphed to either side.

I have no crystal ball, but should Obama secure a second term, it will certainly have different implications for labor than Bush's presidency.

Just my opinion, but personally I would rather negotiate a little harder now and risk our negotiations extending into Obama's (likely) second term rather than sign a substandard contract that risks entering the mid phase of NMB involvement just as a (IMHO likely) Republican president comes into office.

SWA would save big too as they will have to train the 717 pilots to the 737 no matter what. If we take the pilots, they get to train almost 1000 first year new hires while offloading pilots with seniority. DL taking the pilots would be a win win for DL and SW management, a windfall of epic proportions for AT pilots and an absolute disaster for DL pilots.

We need binding iron clad proof there will be no pilots with the planes. SWA saying their fleet size will be the same and they don't plan on furloughs is not good enough. Even if that's true, we could still have to take the pilots. 88 stagnation jets in exchange for more DC-9 sized 90 seaters at DCI becomes an even worse deal.

You just blew my mind dood.

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Out-frikkin-standing!!:D

"Logbook." I'm going to start reading the checklist like that on my next trip on Sunday.
:D

"How can you reproduce in that kind of environment?" :D

Carl

Quick question.

SFO & LAX. SFO is a little easier to get to, but both about the same amount of time.

Going to NRT. SFO has 767 Business and LAX has 747 Business. Having never been on a 747 with the flat-bed config (never been on a 747 period), is it worth just a little more hassle to get to LAX?

Both flights have seats. I either drive to SFO or fly a commuter to LAX, I'll need to leave the house at the same time regardless. Is the ride in the 747 worth the extra leg?

Thx,
Humboldt