Can someone pls answer, how many mainline jets are we down since the merger?

My guess.

If this TA passes, the early retirements would offset the new efficiencies that they gain in the contract. So, we are where we are right now minus the fact that many of the guys slated to retire in the next 5 years just left on the early out.

So, not too many retirements for several years due to the early outs.

We are a bit fat right now (a SWAG).

The first 20 or so 717's would replace DC9's. That takes us until the 2014 deliveries. So, they will make sure all the furlough bypass and mil leave guys come back if they want to, and then hire. I think if this TA passes, we still won't see hiring (or flows) until late 2013 (or later).

Just my guess.

There are 720 mainline jets as of May 22 and 599 at DCI. We were at 767 at the merger so we are down 47 airframes.

Well 767 is what we had. I believe we are at 709 now.

Makes sense to me.

So to get all of that "growth" we just need to give up large rj scope and establish a temporary 3 year new max cap of 325.

Not everyone has critical thinking skills, some have to be guided towards what to believe, like a sheep or a drone.

mainline jets at time of merger 767

mainline jets today 720

difference -47


Proposed Narrowbody jets 88

- difference in parked mainline jets 47

growth mainline airframes 41

41 717's = 70 76 seaters

Plus a hard cap of 450 DCI aircraft, until the next contract of course when the line in the sand can once again be moved.

Where is the guarantee that the 88 "growth" airplanes won't be offset by parking Dc-9's, A319/320's and 757's. These are replacement planes.

Only 40 something down? We lost the whole 74-2 fleet, essentially the -9 fleet and there are probably 30 757's sitting in Tuscon... Something doesn't add. Already counting the MD-90's?