Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
06-25-2012 | 06:27 PM
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Touché, can’t disagree with you there. I was just highlighting our surrounding environment. Agreed, we have already done the bloodletting. It is now their turn. Unfortunately I still think going back to the table will be risky and fruitless in the current state of domestic and world affairs. Don’t misread me though. I do understand and empathize with the fight. I just seriously think this is a bad time to do so. To reiterate, except for one time which I later regretted, I have voted NO every single time on every single issue. Not this time.
P.S. This is an intrusive question/s so you certainly don’t even need to respond, but as a 744 Captain, you are the most senior of the senior’s. I’m assuming your post description is true. I would give my left nad to be a 744/777 Captain. That will never happen even though I was pretty much a run of the mill new hire. I’m not whining, and we all know that timing is everything. My first question: Are you even considering this retirement package? I have serious doubt that anyone will be interested. Depending on your age, I would think you would be one of the targeted pilots. My second question: I’m wondering why at your seniority level you aren’t a “Pull up the ladder” kind of guy. You seem to be an advocate more for the bottom rather than the top. I respect that, but I’m just curious. To me, you don’t seem like the normal super senior guy. Can you explain your position?
P.S. 2 Carl are you suggesting that we simply ignore our surroundings because we are finally profitable?
P.S. This is an intrusive question/s so you certainly don’t even need to respond, but as a 744 Captain, you are the most senior of the senior’s. I’m assuming your post description is true. I would give my left nad to be a 744/777 Captain. That will never happen even though I was pretty much a run of the mill new hire. I’m not whining, and we all know that timing is everything. My first question: Are you even considering this retirement package? I have serious doubt that anyone will be interested. Depending on your age, I would think you would be one of the targeted pilots. My second question: I’m wondering why at your seniority level you aren’t a “Pull up the ladder” kind of guy. You seem to be an advocate more for the bottom rather than the top. I respect that, but I’m just curious. To me, you don’t seem like the normal super senior guy. Can you explain your position?
P.S. 2 Carl are you suggesting that we simply ignore our surroundings because we are finally profitable?
Second, the reason is because I've been very fortunate in life. My airline career started out badly with 5 furloughs in 5 years. But it looks at this point that it will end OK. Because of all my furloughs, I've always had outside business interests. Those interests have become very lucrative. That would never have been possible for me without some good airline years giving me the seed money that I needed. I want the younger people junior to me to have those same opportunities and NOT be living paycheck to paycheck. That will never happen if we keep eating our young by selling scope. It's why I tell young people that their first choice should be SWA. Rock solid scope is everything.
Third, no I don't think we should ignore our surroundings. By you bringing up APA and our TA in the same sentence, it just struck me that you were making a direct comparison. But I see by this post that you didn't mean to do that...just rather keep it in the overall picture.
PS: I hope you get to fly the 744. She's the best hand flying airplane I've ever flown.
Carl
06-25-2012 | 07:23 PM
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Rj engines costs are in the $200 million range, but don't let a over $1 BILLION in Delta Pilot contract improvements over 3 years get in the way...
06-25-2012 | 07:25 PM
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The contract improvements seem to have inflated as the vote gets closer.... meanwhile the engines seem to have deflated. hmmmm....
06-25-2012 | 07:34 PM
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06-25-2012 | 07:53 PM
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Engine MX.... I didn't hear/see any numbers from a credible source until two weeks ago, and the "200 mil for 5 years" and "200 over 5 years" was what was bounced around. The DALPA SPC Chair was queried and is the amount the that the TO letter used.
06-25-2012 | 07:58 PM
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The billion plus was known from the first day the MEC voted to send the TA out for memrat.
Engine MX.... I didn't hear/see any numbers from a credible source until two weeks ago, and the "200 mil for 5 years" and "200 over 5 years" was what was bounced around. The DALPA SPC Chair was queried and is the amount the that the TO letter used.
Engine MX.... I didn't hear/see any numbers from a credible source until two weeks ago, and the "200 mil for 5 years" and "200 over 5 years" was what was bounced around. The DALPA SPC Chair was queried and is the amount the that the TO letter used.
Carl
06-25-2012 | 08:13 PM
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First, yes I'm very seriously considering the early out. I'm 56 though and I think I need to be a bit closer to 60 before I pull the handle.
Second, the reason is because I've been very fortunate in life. My airline career started out badly with 5 furloughs in 5 years. But it looks at this point that it will end OK. Because of all my furloughs, I've always had outside business interests. Those interests have become very lucrative. That would never have been possible for me without some good airline years giving me the seed money that I needed. I want the younger people junior to me to have those same opportunities and NOT be living paycheck to paycheck. That will never happen if we keep eating our young by selling scope. It's why I tell young people that their first choice should be SWA. Rock solid scope is everything.
Third, no I don't think we should ignore our surroundings. By you bringing up APA and our TA in the same sentence, it just struck me that you were making a direct comparison. But I see by this post that you didn't mean to do that...just rather keep it in the overall picture.
PS: I hope you get to fly the 744. She's the best hand flying airplane I've ever flown.
Carl
Second, the reason is because I've been very fortunate in life. My airline career started out badly with 5 furloughs in 5 years. But it looks at this point that it will end OK. Because of all my furloughs, I've always had outside business interests. Those interests have become very lucrative. That would never have been possible for me without some good airline years giving me the seed money that I needed. I want the younger people junior to me to have those same opportunities and NOT be living paycheck to paycheck. That will never happen if we keep eating our young by selling scope. It's why I tell young people that their first choice should be SWA. Rock solid scope is everything.
Third, no I don't think we should ignore our surroundings. By you bringing up APA and our TA in the same sentence, it just struck me that you were making a direct comparison. But I see by this post that you didn't mean to do that...just rather keep it in the overall picture.
PS: I hope you get to fly the 744. She's the best hand flying airplane I've ever flown.
Carl
06-26-2012 | 04:21 AM
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First, yes I'm very seriously considering the early out. I'm 56 though and I think I need to be a bit closer to 60 before I pull the handle.
Second, the reason is because I've been very fortunate in life. My airline career started out badly with 5 furloughs in 5 years. But it looks at this point that it will end OK. Because of all my furloughs, I've always had outside business interests. Those interests have become very lucrative. That would never have been possible for me without some good airline years giving me the seed money that I needed. I want the younger people junior to me to have those same opportunities and NOT be living paycheck to paycheck. That will never happen if we keep eating our young by selling scope. It's why I tell young people that their first choice should be SWA. Rock solid scope is everything.
Third, no I don't think we should ignore our surroundings. By you bringing up APA and our TA in the same sentence, it just struck me that you were making a direct comparison. But I see by this post that you didn't mean to do that...just rather keep it in the overall picture.
PS: I hope you get to fly the 744. She's the best hand flying airplane I've ever flown.
Carl
Second, the reason is because I've been very fortunate in life. My airline career started out badly with 5 furloughs in 5 years. But it looks at this point that it will end OK. Because of all my furloughs, I've always had outside business interests. Those interests have become very lucrative. That would never have been possible for me without some good airline years giving me the seed money that I needed. I want the younger people junior to me to have those same opportunities and NOT be living paycheck to paycheck. That will never happen if we keep eating our young by selling scope. It's why I tell young people that their first choice should be SWA. Rock solid scope is everything.
Third, no I don't think we should ignore our surroundings. By you bringing up APA and our TA in the same sentence, it just struck me that you were making a direct comparison. But I see by this post that you didn't mean to do that...just rather keep it in the overall picture.
PS: I hope you get to fly the 744. She's the best hand flying airplane I've ever flown.
Carl
Very seriously contemplating a jump, but where do you see Southwest in 10 years? Do you think the time of the low cost carrier is over?
06-26-2012 | 06:04 AM
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What we are doing with scope can't be undone in future negotiations. Once we do this, it's done. Scope is both good and bad. It's good that we are getting rid of a bunch of 50 seaters even though it was management who over committed to an aircraft that A) passengers hated and B) doesn't make money. It seems it's up to us to dig them out of their poor management decisions with concessions in Section 1. I think the bad part of the good/bad comparison of scope is exponentially worse than the good. We are allowing more 76 seaters than twice the size of Compass. These 76 seaters are on air frames certified to 90 seats. I think the "steady improvement" scenario favors the Company on this issue. My guess is that there will be future erosion of the 76 seaters as we have the certified air frames for higher seats. This is not just the camels nose under the tent. It's pretty much the whole camel, humps and all. Have we abandoned the well being of the profession?
I very much appreciate the input of pilots I trust and respect. On the scope issue, I respectfully disagree.
I very much appreciate the input of pilots I trust and respect. On the scope issue, I respectfully disagree.
06-26-2012 | 06:10 AM
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Whoops?
Delta sees Q2 unit revenue rise, fuel hedge loss
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSL2E8HQ34620120626
Delta sees Q2 unit revenue rise, fuel hedge loss
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSL2E8HQ34620120626
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