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07-06-2012, 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
Just call them and tell them; prior to the report, that "you are in position" That will be the words they are looking for. Crew Sked number Option 1, Option 5.
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07-06-2012, 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Gack727
Question for anyone willing to help.
I just finished my 88 initial qual distance learning and the WWO. I plugged my codes into Icrew and it only credited me 5:22 for the initial and :30 for the WWO. I thought the 1-2 started on July 1 with the new PWA. Did I read the negotiator note pads incorrectly?
If it is supposed to be 2-1 and its an error who would be the best person to contact?
Thanks!
I just finished my 88 initial qual distance learning and the WWO. I plugged my codes into Icrew and it only credited me 5:22 for the initial and :30 for the WWO. I thought the 1-2 started on July 1 with the new PWA. Did I read the negotiator note pads incorrectly?
If it is supposed to be 2-1 and its an error who would be the best person to contact?
Thanks!
07-06-2012, 06:08 PM
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Have a computer question. I downloaded Internet Explorer 9. It apparently has a new feature called InPrivate browsing. You know, for those Nigerian scammers and porn guys. Ever since I downloaded it, APC will come up a blank page unless I go to InPrivate browsing. I also loaded a new Norton AV program around the same time. I have checked everything I can to figure out why it does this but have been unsuccessful so far. Any ideas? APC is the only site that does this.
07-06-2012, 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by DAL73n
While I'm not in the "I paid my dues so should you" school I think there's a limit to how quickly things can or will get fixed for the new hires. There are things that are better than other airlines (health insurance active 1st day on property - CAL is/was 6 months) and things that are worse (no hotel rooms for new hires). While is sounds like a "we should do it because it is right" I don't think it's a minor cost item - given that it is probably anywhere between $50-100/day/pilot you're looking at $1500-$3000/month and I'm just not sure it's been a priority to fix during each contract (I'm sorry to say it was not on my priority list). I do think that 1st year pay was a HIGH priority when I first got hired and I do think it is now reasonable (it was 2K/month for the first year in 2000) and now it is $60.92/hour (which is a minimum of $4386.24/month). You can call me what you want but fixing lodging for new hires is not a huge priority on my list (pay was a big one).
07-06-2012, 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Waves
Have a computer question. I downloaded Internet Explorer 9. It apparently has a new feature called InPrivate browsing. You know, for those Nigerian scammers and porn guys. Ever since I downloaded it, APC will come up a blank page unless I go to InPrivate browsing. I also loaded a new Norton AV program around the same time. I have checked everything I can to figure out why it does this but have been unsuccessful so far. Any ideas? APC is the only site that does this.
07-06-2012, 07:36 PM
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I don't see why people are all bent out of shape over the hotel for newhires deal. Our newhire pay is better than anyone else out there and the health insurance kicks in day 1. That more than offsets the cost of putting yourself up for a couple of weeks.
We do get single occupancy hotels during indoc and then we are on the hook during sim training. I ran behind the hotel we were in for indoc, found a crash pad in less than 10 minutes (there are tons back in that neighborhood), and had a house to stay in the entire month for $250. I had a full kitchen, private room, and a nice living room to study in. Beat the heck out of a hotel room for a month. If I had to do it all over again and I had a company paid hotel, I'd go pay for a crashpad again on my own dime.
We do get single occupancy hotels during indoc and then we are on the hook during sim training. I ran behind the hotel we were in for indoc, found a crash pad in less than 10 minutes (there are tons back in that neighborhood), and had a house to stay in the entire month for $250. I had a full kitchen, private room, and a nice living room to study in. Beat the heck out of a hotel room for a month. If I had to do it all over again and I had a company paid hotel, I'd go pay for a crashpad again on my own dime.
07-06-2012, 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by MrBojangles
...I'm not certain, but I doubt the regional airline pilots gave up anything to get the newhires there hotel rooms. Maybe I'm wrong.
This was done freely, i.e. did not require any changes to the PWA.
However there were over a dozen regional airlines hiring from the same pool of applicants, and IIRC this was done so the Comair subsidiary could "keep up" rather than "get ahead"
07-06-2012, 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
First make sure of the official run times on your fleets site they are listed in the initial qual material. If they are off call training planning.
643 minutes for 88 initial
88 minutes for 90 differences
59 minutes for WWO
Total 13 hrs and 10 mins total
It was short on my time card total credit was 5:52 and should have been 6:35 I think I can't make the math work. I will contact training planning thx.
I went back and added up the times as listed on the CD menu pages and they are higher than what the welcome letter states. How do they decide how much to pay is there some type of average or is it strictly based on runtime?
07-06-2012, 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Gack727
Question for anyone willing to help.
I just finished my 88 initial qual distance learning and the WWO. I plugged my codes into Icrew and it only credited me 5:22 for the initial and :30 for the WWO. I thought the 1-2 started on July 1 with the new PWA. Did I read the negotiator note pads incorrectly?
If it is supposed to be 2-1 and its an error who would be the best person to contact?
Thanks!
I just finished my 88 initial qual distance learning and the WWO. I plugged my codes into Icrew and it only credited me 5:22 for the initial and :30 for the WWO. I thought the 1-2 started on July 1 with the new PWA. Did I read the negotiator note pads incorrectly?
If it is supposed to be 2-1 and its an error who would be the best person to contact?
Thanks!
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Last edited by Bucking Bar; 07-06-2012 at 08:43 PM.
07-06-2012, 09:18 PM
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