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Roadie85 08-10-2012 08:02 AM


Originally Posted by lolwut (Post 1243248)
Instructors should be selected based on skill and ability, rather than seniority.

If they were able to interview and surpass the others seeking the position, I'm glad they got it.

If you can seperate politics and the good old boy network.

TeddyKGB 08-10-2012 08:22 AM

How long to reenstatement rights last for?

trlaketige 08-10-2012 08:53 AM


Originally Posted by lolwut (Post 1243248)
Instructors should be selected based on skill and ability, rather than seniority.

If they were able to interview and surpass the others seeking the position, I'm glad they got it.



Shouldn't they also have experience on what they are teaching? An instructor with that seniority # is on reserve and hasn't flown much since being trained on the aircraft. We have many more F/O's on the aircraft with the skill, ability and experience to instruct.

Tr

Check Essential 08-10-2012 08:55 AM


Originally Posted by Delta1067 (Post 1243293)
How long to reenstatement rights last for?

180 days from your MD conversion date. (22.F.12.a)

TeddyKGB 08-10-2012 08:56 AM


Originally Posted by Check Essential (Post 1243310)
180 days from your MD conversion date.

Thank you.

BlueMoon 08-10-2012 09:06 AM

Didn't NWA hire outside instructors for some A/C and then after a certain amount of time move to the line or interview for a pilot job?
Is that how those individuals are possibly in their position? I'm not entirely sure how the program worked, but I believe I flew with a guy who had been a 747 instructor at NWA but was now at my regional.

proletariatav8r 08-10-2012 09:21 AM

The way NATCO was set up on the ground side was that there were staff instructors, most of whom were not on the seniority list. A handful were from the military, a handful of college graduates with an aviation background from ERAU, Purdue, UND etc. and the others were retired NWA pilots. Each person would specialize in a particular system. Ground school was a class act all the way. Many were angling for an interview and a number made it onto the list. I think it was, teach for 3 years and you could be put up for an interview.

iceman49 08-10-2012 09:40 AM


Originally Posted by lolwut (Post 1243248)
Instructors should be selected based on skill and ability, rather than seniority.

If they were able to interview and surpass the others seeking the position, I'm glad they got it.

That makes sense, use someone that cannot hold the position and has not held the position to teach on it.:cool:

trlaketige 08-10-2012 09:44 AM


Originally Posted by proletariatav8r (Post 1243322)
The way NATCO was set up on the ground side was that there were staff instructors, most of whom were not on the seniority list. A handful were from the military, a handful of college graduates with an aviation background from ERAU, Purdue, UND etc. and the others were retired NWA pilots. Each person would specialize in a particular system. Ground school was a class act all the way. Many were angling for an interview and a number made it onto the list. I think it was, teach for 3 years and you could be put up for an interview.



Not entirely true. NWA had "aircrew training instructors" that were non-seniority list. They mostly taught a/c systems and some "systems integrated training". Seniority list F/O instructors would teach in the sims and could do seat fill duties for check rides and other training. All checking was done by seniority list captain instructors and APD's. All sl instructors where current on the a/c, as most of them worked 6months of the year on the line and 6 months in the box.


For a short time NWA had in internal hire program similar to what you described. I believe it was scrapped when some had trouble checking out.


At least that's how I remember it.


Tr

Timbo 08-10-2012 10:21 AM


Originally Posted by iceman49 (Post 1243333)
That makes sense, use someone that cannot hold the position and has not held the position to teach on it.:cool:

And then...put him in possition to 'bust' everyone senior to him!

Sing along time: "We're Movin' on up!"

:D

So, what are these guys really doing on the 747B?

Spies?

I seriously doubt they are sim instructors or ground school instructors, since we don't even have ground school any more, but a DVD systems course instead.


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