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And that my friends, is why there was such a rush to get this done, and why they didn't have any more than 4,8,3,3 for us.
They can spend Billions on JV's, Billions on RJ's, but no soup for you! Hey, at least we'll be Leading the Industry.... in big RJ's! |
Originally Posted by Superpilot92
(Post 1306033)
Don't worry guys, it's just a 3+ billion dollar deal on jets to be flown by pilots other than our own.....nothing new here
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Originally Posted by Denny Crane
(Post 1306055)
Here is an excerpt from the contract, section 1.B.46: Exception one: If the Company establishes a fleet of new small narrowbody aircraft, the number of permitted 76-seat aircraft may increase on a one 76-seat aircraft for each one and one quarter new small narrowbody aircraft (1:1.25) ratio (rounded to the closest integer) up to a total of 223 76-seat aircraft.
To me, it looks like the company can order them and probably even take delivery BUT, until 50 717's (1:1.25) are delivered they cannot put them all into service. I don't want to do any more public math but, at 3 airframes a month starting around August of next year, wouldn't that be sometime around November 2014? Am I reading it wrong? Wouldn't be surprised if I was..... Denny |
Originally Posted by Timbo
(Post 1306058)
And that my friends, is why there was such a rush to get this done, and why they didn't have any more than 4,8,3,3 for us.
They can spend Billions on JV's, Billions on RJ's, but no soup for you! Hey, at least we'll be Leading the Industry.... in big RJ's! |
Originally Posted by Denny Crane
(Post 1306055)
Here is an excerpt from the contract, section 1.B.46: Exception one: If the Company establishes a fleet of new small narrowbody aircraft, the number of permitted 76-seat aircraft may increase on a one 76-seat aircraft for each one and one quarter new small narrowbody aircraft (1:1.25) ratio (rounded to the closest integer) up to a total of 223 76-seat aircraft.
To me, it looks like the company can order them and probably even take delivery BUT, until 50 717's (1:1.25) are delivered they cannot put them all into service. I don't want to do any more public math but, at 3 airframes a month starting around August of next year, wouldn't that be sometime around November 2014? Am I reading it wrong? Wouldn't be surprised if I was..... Denny As soon as I read the article I was wondering the same thing. Looks like its time to write my Rep for some answers. |
Originally Posted by Columbia
(Post 1306073)
But, but, but......they had a plan B had the TA been voted down. What was dal pas plan B? :rolleyes:
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How is the announcement of an RJ order that takes them to 223 large RJ's a shock to anyone? Did anyone think that they would not actually order or have options for as many large RJ's than were just permitted in the TA that was ratified by 62% of the pilots voting "in favor?"
153+40+30=223 or their 76 seat aircraft (not jets) limit. |
Originally Posted by johnso29
(Post 1306077)
Keep the 50 seaters. Take delivery of the B737-900ERs and MD90's. Pump the mainline fleet up high enough to get to 255 76 seat RJs, then start parking mainline planes. I'm sure Bombardier would have no problem taking CRJ700's for the purchase of a brand new CRJ900's. Those CRJ700's could easily be placed somewhere else. Then we are still at a DCI fleet of 500+ airplanes, no block hour ratio, & no fleet cap.
Keep in mind that they would have still been capped at 255 70+ seat jets (not aircraft) and would have had to trade out 70 seat jets (not aircraft) to get to 255 with the pump and dump as you describe. |
Originally Posted by acl65pilot
(Post 1306085)
How is the announcement of an RJ order that takes them to 223 large RJ's a shock to anyone? Did anyone think that they would not actually order or have options for as many large RJ's than were just permitted in the TA that was ratified by 62% of the pilots voting "in favor?"
153+40+30=223 or their 76 seat aircraft (not jets) limit. |
Doesn't management have to be in compliance with the DAL scope contract by a certain date and then a continuous rolling schedule thereafter?
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