What I am most curious of is those barely 40 year-olds hanging around 6,000. Jealous? Yes.

 

Re. FTB's scatter diagram above, what's most interesting to me is the huge 'cluster' of blue dots to the left of number 6,000, in the age bracket of 55, plus or minus 3 years.

And looking to the far right, it seems we have some nearly 65 year olds at the 11,000 plus level. How did that happen? Were they hiring pilots over age 60 in the last 200 new hires? Or were they Compass flow up?

 

I'm more curious about the 48 year old hanging around 1000. Talk about right place, right time....

 

I know of at least one Compass flow-up who retired from Delta, went to Jetblue, then quit Jetblue to go to Compass, and then flowed up to Delta. I know of another retired Fedex pilot who started at Delta older than 60. I am sure there are others. Those are the two I know about.

 

The AS code share over all (despite the rampant abuse in large markets) actually does make sense. Frontier OTOH brings pretty much nothing to the table by comparison. They don't fly to that many places DL and its partners don't already, and most of where they do is RJ's anyway.

I hope RA is smart enough to know that we would require a sporty move like that to be an asset sale that falls far below "federal merger law".

 

I think I know him, I believe he was 23 when hired a few months after me. We had a 24yr. old in my new hire class, Sept. of 1985. I was 26 but so was another guy, our class's average age was 28 with a range of 24-34. All of us are below number 400 today, mostly in our mid 50's with a few that are over 60.

During the (DL South) hiring boom of 1985-1991 the average age of new hire classes kept going up, about 1yr. per year, ie. in 1986, it was 29, in 1987 it was 30, in 1988, it was 31, etc. So there is a huge clump of guys in that 55 age bracket in the top 6000.

The reason for this upward newhire age creep is, Delta's propensity to hire military guys, (90%) and the military training commitments kept going up as well. When I went into the Air Guard, in 1983, it was 5 years, having just gone up from 4 years. Now the committment is what, 10 years? So the average age military pilot getting out after 10 years will be about 33-34, instead of 28-29.

Of course, if he's smart, he won't get out now. He'll stay in for 20+ years, 'retire' and then get an airline job, when the top 6000 Delta pilots all retire in the same few years, about 2020-2025.

I don't know what the NW hiring numbers and ages were at that time, 1985-1991, not sure where their big clump of same age guys is, but judging from all the blue in the 55 age bracket in the top 6000, I'd say it's about the same as the south side.

 

That's interesting.



Wait, what?

CPZ-DL-JB-CPZ-DL?

Really?

Or did you just mean JB-CPZ-DL?

 

Beauty of an overnight.

I should just turn the tv on but tv bores me, even with sports.

 

Check out that guy/gal who is about 49 at about the 1000 seniority level.

Good job, ftb!

 

Ahh. You beat me to it.