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Old 08-16-2012 | 04:07 AM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
Such as?



208 new aircraft? We have 714 now. So are we going up to 922 mainline aircraft in the next four years?
No, We are taking delivery of 208 aircraft new to the fleet. There will be reductions in older aircraft most in the 757 fleet. How deep those reductions are will depend on the economy and marketing plan going forward. There are also options for 30 more aircraft in this time frame if things turned around.
Old 08-16-2012 | 04:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Roadkill
^^^^^^^^^
This and also Free Bird's post.
11 years here and STILL seniority # is above what the company says it needs to run the airline. Bottom part of the list is one small TA efficiency away from another 5 year furlough. My analysis says our hiring through 2016 is taken care of by the new contract, and anything beyond that will likely be handled by some sort of merger/shrinkage. When the entire list stagnates for 5 years due to 65, it's way easy to talk rosy when you're sitting at the TOP of the world for those extra 5 years... things are different when you're at the bottom for an extra 5 years, especially right after more than 5 years furlough.
Can you post your analysis? Here is what is generally being put out. Negative work rules will cost us 300 to 340 pilots. Positive work rule changes will add back about 200 jobs. Net loss 100 to 140 jobs. RMA program netted 191 jobs. Transition of flying from DCI to the mainline will require about 1000 pilots to man entire 717 fleet. MD90 deliveries offset retirements of remaining DC9's. 737 deliveries are replacement aircraft for most 757 retirements. This is based on a zero growth fleet plan. The 717's are growth to the mainline but net neutral to the Delta system.
The company has the option to overhaul some 757's and retain them in the fleet and exercise options for addition 900ER's if the economy turns around. They can retire additional aircraft if the economy tanks. Widebody order due late fall or early winter. It will be a mostly replacement order with deliveries starting around 17. Again options for growth if things turn around.

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Old 08-16-2012 | 04:46 AM
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Originally Posted by NuGuy
MKE has been an on again/off again love affair since the North Central days.

Nothing to see here, move along.

Nu
So say you. If this "leak" as its being termed it true, its one more time DAL will invest in the SE Wisconsin Market.

DAL and NWA have a long history in MKE. Back in the day you saw Whales and DC-10's in MKE for NWA. Investments in MEH, commitments to MKE after that, then a final pullout a few years ago.

In comes in F9 to buy MEH, they try to make a go of it, fail miserably, and disband all hints of MEH, the on-board cookies were last. Their promise of hundreds of jobs in MKE did not come true.

It's just an investment in the naming rights of a building, but now that F9 and SWA are slugging it out there it is of an interesting note that DAL would consider this.

Now sure what F9 would bring to DAL mainline. I can see SKW buying them and then DAL wanting a domestic code share agreement with them. The miles from F9 already transfer to Skymiles. There has been a few of these less notable developments over the last year or so.
Old 08-16-2012 | 04:49 AM
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Originally Posted by olympic
link sir???

http://www.amrcaseinfo.com/pdflib/4044_15463.pdf
Old 08-16-2012 | 05:01 AM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
When I break it out on excel, this is what I get:





So, it looks as if Sailing is right. I show 71% of the RMA (post withdrawl) being under 61.

The only problem is, it's only 191 pilots out of a little under 12,000.

FTB, you have way too much time on your hands
Old 08-16-2012 | 05:13 AM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
When I break it out on excel, this is what I get:





So, it looks as if Sailing is right. I show 71% of the RMA (post withdrawl) being under 61.

The only problem is, it's only 191 pilots out of a little under 12,000.
How did you get the age/seniority data for the whole list?
Old 08-16-2012 | 05:19 AM
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Originally Posted by lolwut
How did you get the age/seniority data for the whole list?
Its on the Crew Resources webpage. Right hand column.
"Scheduled Retirements".

FTB-
Thanks for the outstanding Excel info.
Although 191 is not very many, I choose to look at the bright side. Every 59 year old is worth five 64 year olds.

Appears there will be a lot of movement in DTW and MSP. Good news for those bases.
Old 08-16-2012 | 05:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Check Essential
Its on the Crew Resources webpage. Right hand column.
"Scheduled Retirements".

FTB-
Thanks for the outstanding Excel info.
Although 191 is not very many, I choose to look at the bright side. Every 59 year old is worth five 64 year olds.

Appears there will be a lot of movement in DTW and MSP. Good news for those bases.
Good point check, these numbers are far better than just 191 63-64 year olds.
Old 08-16-2012 | 05:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Doug Masters
FTB, you have way too much time on your hands
Beauty of an overnight.

I should just turn the tv on but tv bores me, even with sports.
Old 08-16-2012 | 05:58 AM
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Now, as we await the AE results, we have time to catch up with current events.

I was just wondering. What has Anna Kournikova been up to lately?




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