Ok, I'm confused. Are the numbers you posted above actual mandatory retirement #s for those years? If so, then what the heck are the random #s that are currently listed on the ALPC Delta page?
Also, given the early out program, shouldn't that lower the total # of pilots at the company from 11,822 to a lower number? Thanks.

 

Those are "worst case" everyone goes to Age 65 numbers that I posted.

I don't know why that happened- it's not valid numbers, though. I'll send a message to HSLD or Freight Dawg.

The 01NOV12 seniority list shows 11805 pilots on the list (down from 12454 at the time of the merger ). There will be a handful more to dive out from the early retirement offered earlier in the year.

 

Happy Thanksgiving everybody!!!

 

Ok good to hear! Your numbers are way better than the numbers currently posted. According to the numbers posted now, there are still about 4500 pilots currently at Delta under the age of 39, which doesn't seem correct.

 

That is definitely way off.

 

Well that's a relief!

I had a couple more questions:

1) What are the 3 most junior domiciles and equipment at Delta currently?

2) I've heard several mentions of Delta furlough pilots but the ALPC Delta page shows 0 pilots on furlough. So are there still DAL pilots on furlough and if so, why does the furlough # show 0?

Thanks!

 

1- NYC and DTW, but all bases are available quite close to the bottom of the list.

2- There are still about 300 pilots on "furlough bypass." They deferred their return from furlough until a later date. This next chance to come back will be their last.

 

Ok, thanks for the info!

So will those 300 be given a last chance to return before Delta starts hiring off the street again?

 

Yes. I think its about 260 or so, but not sure exactly. Most will have one final chance, but I think there are a few fNWA furloughs that were recalled and then refurloughed around 2006ish or so briefly? In any case there is a small demographic that will get several more years but I think most will have to decide when (if?) hiring begins again.

 

I also haven't looked at every category, but the ones I've checked out have had a significant increade in GS and RR and RSV coverage has absolutely, suddenly, tanked for the entire week. If there's not an operational fallout to some degree from that, then it at least has to come out of pilot QOL eventually. I agree that over all the integrity is high, because we have a good group. No doubt about that.

But I think we could better incentivise holiday work as well as eventually reform (or at least offer an option) for what is essentially a use it or lose it, rather large annual sick bank.

Then again, if we did any of that, it could eventually reduce manning formulas and whatnots. While I'm in favor of productivity in general, at this point its up to the company to build better trips. They (all airlines) whine about productivity and then define productivity for them as massive, working every day for low credit and sitting around all day style unproductivity for us. At this point when they say they want productivity, our answer should be "yes, we agree! RIG IT!"

I still see holiday pay as a very low to no cost item if it was implimented right. Even time and a quarter would probably be enough to cut down on GS's, RR's, IA's and even guarantee exceedances during holidays and make the RSV grid for holiday weeks look like any old boring off season week, all while giving more people off those days that truly want them.